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    I really want to know how you have that silver medal under your name. I just don't see who would vote for you besides sequ and fabbs.
    You act like I'm making things up here. Did you see the contract he signed? Don't you know what having a year under his belt in the Spurs system means?

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    Seriously...relax people. RJ has got this.

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    These players also had a tough 1st year meshing with the Big 3.
    Brent Barry 2005
    Nazr 2005
    Frankie Elson 2007
    None of those players were boderline stars like Jefferson was and none got the pay that Jefferson is gettting.

    I dont expect a big improvement in Jeffersons play unless pop lets the team run the break more.

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    You act like I'm making things up here. Did you see the contract he signed? Don't you know what having a year under his belt in the Spurs system means?
    benefactor you've really got the PollyAnna Poppers going on this thread.

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    I agree, RJ will be better. 15 ponts per game and better D.

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    I think he'll absolutely be better. As long as he stays healthy you'd think that by default he'll be better. Just having another summer to work out and study and more games to play and assimilate will help him. I'm not the biggest Jefferson fan and was certainly disappointed by his play much of last season, but I don't think the Spurs had many other options this summer.

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    We’ll give Jefferson a mulligan, citing a steep first year learning curve in a difficult system.
    48MOH ftw.

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    ...I dont expect a big improvement in Jeffersons play unless pop lets the team run the break more.
    With the Neal signing, I'm starting to think that is CIA's plan. We still give the impression our focus is lockdown D. But you can't do that w/o Twin Towers. So unless TS proves otherwise, the Spurs are going uptempo. It will make TP look even better for trade deadline deal.

    P.S. TD's style of play will enable him to play into his late 30's -- like the Mailman did -- w/o embarassing himself. I figure he'll get at least trophy #

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    Mason and Udoka are clear examples of why this theory doesnt work. Then again both were scrubs.

    I expect RJ to be more acclimated to the system but tbh, he's not all that bright. Hopefully RJ finds a way for himself to fit in. He doesnt really help in any area of our needs. He's not a spot up shooter. He cant defend. He lacks leadership skills. He lacks clutchness.

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    Hate the Spurs roster? Here you go=======> (click)

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    Would the fact that he was playing for a contract extension last season and now he just got paid have an impact too?

    Discuss.

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    Would the fact that he was playing for a contract extension last season and now he just got paid have an impact too?

    Discuss.
    Are you saying that last season was an Erick Dampieresque contract run for him, and that he's going to plummet to earth this coming season like Jerome James strapped to a trash bag?

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    Are you saying that last season was an Erick Dampieresque contract run for him, and that he's going to plummet to earth this coming season like Jerome James strapped to a trash bag?
    I'm asking you and anybody else who wants to opine if that's a possibility. What do you think?

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    I'm asking you and anybody else who wants to opine if that's a possibility. What do you think?
    That's so goddamn depressing I don't really want to.

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    That's so goddamn depressing I don't really want to.
    Well, it's possible that the positive of his familiarity with the system in the second year outdoes the negative impact of complacency after signing a new long term deal.

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    Would the fact that he was playing for a contract extension last season and now he just got paid have an impact too?

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    Not negatively. It does in many cases but in the cases of second year Spurs players who now know the system it is not a factor.

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    Well, it's possible that the positive of his familiarity with the system in the second year outdoes the negative impact of complacency after signing a new long term deal.
    lol...that's what I get for not refreshing my screen. Great minds.

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    OF course he will be! RJ has been working out with Pop all summer long! Truth!

    (edit) Hmm, maybe I should have posted this as a blue
    Confirmed that RJ worked with Pop too. That combined with the second year basically seals the deal.


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    Sorry but not buying it. Jefferson will be marginally better at best.

    Same things were said about Mason, Bonner and other suck ass players.
    good point hater

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    I think he'll be better. HE's got a lot of talent and with a year to see what is going to be expected of him, i RJ will come around this year..

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    Uhhhhh, he's obviously going to be much better..

    He's over 30 and relies strictly on athleticism..players like that always get better with age, it's common knowledge..



    Oh come on. He just turned 30. It's not like he's 35. IS there a law that says you are a great athlete at 29 and an old man at 30 or something??

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    I understand when it comes to personal decisions how planning for the worst makes sense. When it comes to something that you enjoy that has no bearing on your personal lives I have never been able to understand this type of stuff.

    Its been detailed how his contract has no effect on our ability to sign players and Pop has detailed Jefferson has worked on defensive drills specifically to improve his game. It was readily apparent that his lateral quickness was a problem last year and hes doing stuff to try and improve that.

    Why spend months being down on people so you can feel vindicated for a few days? I just do not get that.

    Being positive is viewed as being stupid and a shortcoming. Koolaid, carebears and all that type of thing. I just do not get that.

    If you want to think that about me because I hope and think a player for the team I love will do well then so be it. You go ahead and be miserable.

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    you guys act like we signed some amazing star CHILL OUT!!!! look jeff averaged nearly 10pts 5rbs 2 assis w/ EFF +11 now if u ask me thats not freaking bad in a spurs system i know its not 14mil good but thats done with and takin care of

    to me its not about him getting amazing numbers bruces numbers were but he did wonders for this team i think since pop did actually work with he has a better understanding of what he specifically needs to be good at, not be out there trying to mimic manu or anything. he needs to play defense first second he needs to drive when hes matched with an inferior defender and 3rd he needs to make open shots theres no excuse for that. overall i think his numbers were good but he was confused out there and was totally freaked out by how complicated the plays were

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    I understand when it comes to personal decisions how planning for the worst makes sense. When it comes to something that you enjoy that has no bearing on your personal lives I have never been able to understand this type of stuff.

    Its been detailed how his contract has no effect on our ability to sign players and Pop has detailed Jefferson has worked on defensive drills specifically to improve his game. It was readily apparent that his lateral quickness was a problem last year and hes doing stuff to try and improve that.

    Why spend months being down on people so you can feel vindicated for a few days? I just do not get that.

    Being positive is viewed as being stupid and a shortcoming. Koolaid, carebears and all that type of thing. I just do not get that.

    If you want to think that about me because I hope and think a player for the team I love will do well then so be it. You go ahead and be miserable.

    this is what i say too!!! whats with all the hate just relax and this year cant be anyworse than last year personally im excited about tiago blair hill anderson it should be crazy fun

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