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    o guys and fellow Spurs fans,

    Greetings! We all love the Spurs and I think we shall be in for a pleasant surprise this year:

    The Oldies can still play: Tim, Manu and Parker

    The "middle group" can actually win ballgames guys: RJ, Hill and Blair!
    More on the middle group....look RJ is an nba star, he showed willingness to "relearn the system again"....that takes patience and determination. Hill has versatility and Blair can dominate certain games.....if you take out the legendary oldies....the three can still win games for you, we all know this....

    Plus, add the young warriors:
    Splitter is Rookie of the Year material, and NBA star material ....i dont care what the other analysts are thinking, he is already one of the best centers on earth.....Anderson can score and need only to learn the Spurs team defense....and Garrett Temple is also a unique material like Hill.....

    Plus, add the rest....

    Guys, this line up is very balanced, the most unique in years.

    Imagine this: delete the LA Lakers from the NBA line up right now?

    and then imagine the scenario: can we win? of course!!! We can beat the Heat, the Celtics, the Magic, the Mavs (always), the Suns .......etc

    As to the Thunder, well, experience can prevail over youth in a tense seven game series......

    See?

    So we only need to figure out how to beat LA......

    Gentlemen, we shall have an interesting season. Lemme hear your thoughts on this.

    Thanks!

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    All RJ can star in is his own series on the Bravo channel.

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    Spurs would be a lot more balanced if they had Adam Morrison starting at small forward

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    Spurs would be a lot more balanced if they had Adam Morrison starting at small forward


    Right. Now we're going to start MAJOR NBA busts, just because they meet your height requirements.

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    Right. Now we're going to start MAJOR NBA busts, just because they meet your height requirements.
    Sarcasm chief..


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    Adding Bonner to the mix would also make the lineup very balanced with 3 point shooting.

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    Ah. That makes sense. It's also damned hard to get across in the forum, especially when a ton of posters are truly pining for a player over 6'8"...ANY player over 6'8".

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    We have a very, very unbalanced team, lots of shooters at SG though.

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    I wouldn't mind having Adam Morrison on a serious note, but he should be the backup SF getting limited minutes at the end of the bench. I'd rather have Nachbar though.

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    2003 would hold that le. Most versatile GROUP the championship run teams have had. Deep with players who could play multiple positions.

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    Spurs are the NBA team with the less depth on the perimeter.
    That's damn worrisome.

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    We've got a lot of shooters on our team.

    Tony Parker, Gary Neal, George Hill, James Anderson, Richard Jefferson, Manu Ginobili, Garrett Temple, and Matt Bonner can all hit the three. Granted, Parker and Jefferson aren't great at it, but every once in a while they'll make one and don't shoot them at a ridiculous low percentage.

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    Spurs are the NBA team with the less depth on the perimeter.
    That's damn worrisome.
    RJ is in his second year...and he worked with Pop.

    Championship baby.

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    We've got a lot of shooters on our team.

    Tony Parker, Gary Neal, George Hill, James Anderson, Richard Jefferson, Manu Ginobili, Garrett Temple, and Matt Bonner can all hit the three. Granted, Parker and Jefferson aren't great at it, but every once in a while they'll make one and don't shoot them at a ridiculous low percentage.
    The bolded players are our shooters. Bonner forgets how to shoot, which is bad because that's all he's ever known to do, ever, TP sparingly takes the 3 ball, not really relevant to put him there, and RJ cannot shoot. The others have not proven enough, if anything.

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    "Balance" to me is a nonsensical term within the context of NBA teams. You would have to explicitly define what you mean by "balance" in the context of NBA players before I could tell you whether or not I think our team is "balanced" by your standards.

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    RJ is in his second year...and he worked with Pop.

    Championship baby.
    Well, it wasn't really a blast to RJ.
    Spurs have only 4 perimeter players (Parker, Hill, Ginoibli and Jefferson) who are NBA proven. That's crazy for a team whose goal is to win it all.

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    Not even close to being the most balanced. They will have their challenges matching up with several teams, particularly teams with length.

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    @ beating Miami..Spurs have a much better chance at beating LA than they do Miami..

    As for the question..

    The Spurs have 0 reliable perimeter defenders right now..Manu can defend well when he doesn't have too much offensive responsibility, but he obviously will, so his defensive ability comes down to help D/steals..

    Hill has problems with lateral quickness and size inside, Temple is unproven and skinny, Parker is an average defender at best, Anderson is completely unproven and was never known as a defender, and Neal is unproven and has never been known as a defender at all..

    Jefferson shows occasional flashes of help D, but he's an average overall defender that struggles with his lateral quickness and basketball IQ(missed a lot of rotations last year, should be better this year, but still has a relatively low IQ IMO)..


    Spurs don't have reliable shooters..Bonner chokes in the playoffs, Hill is only consistent from the corners so far, Manu is streaky, Jefferson is average, Parker isn't an outside shooter, Anderson and Neal are unproven..


    Spurs don't have interior defenders outside of Duncan..Splitter is unproven, Bonner is a below average interior defender, McDyess is average, Blair is terrible..


    Spurs lack proven depth on the perimeter, as Bruno mentioned..



    The Spurs have a lot of unproven players, so it's too early to make statements like the OP is trying to do..we'll have to see what happens a few months into the season..

    The Spurs do have some strengths, obviously..playmakers(Manu, TP, Timmy), basketball IQ, coaching, interior scoring(Duncan, Blair, Jefferson, Ginobili, Parker, Hill), penetration(Parker, Ginobili, Hill, sometimes Jefferson) and other strengths..not the most balanced team, though..

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    Harlem's comments are brought to you by Morton's Salt (Huge Grain Style).

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    Why?..

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    Actually the Spurs and Mavs could do some trades where both teams would end up being better in terms of balance

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    Let's face it . . . you are a Heat fan now. Although, you make some good points, I still can only take you as seriously as I would Mavfan, Lakerfan, etc . . .

    Actually the Spurs and Mavs could do some trades where both teams would end up being better in terms of balance
    Right on cue.

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    Spurs definitely improve from last year, Splitter is a great addition, James Anderson is a good draft pick, Blair and Hill should be better and also RJ...
    but even with this, with the team they have now i think Spurs are one move away for being contender, like another quality player, like one more improvment, because of it i was disappointed that Spurs didn't make another move, didn't use all their future assets.

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    Well, it wasn't really a blast to RJ.
    Spurs have only 4 perimeter players (Parker, Hill, Ginoibli and Jefferson) who are NBA proven. That's crazy for a team whose goal is to win it all.
    I guess.

    Those 4 players are all going to get 100+ minutes a night for the season. Thats three spots for 126 minutes. 100 mintues is lowballing it.

    You are also basically saying that all of Anderson, Gee, Neal and Temple are not going to merit 26 minutes of average play or at least better than Mason, Bogans and Finley.

    Sure we need those 4 guys to be healthy and a young guy to step up but I just do not see what you are getting at.

    I'm fine with an 10 man rotation of Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson, Duncan, Splitter, McDyess, Hill, Blair, Bonner and Anderson/Gee/Neal/Temple.

    I actually like the fact that we are going to see some young guys get some minutes over the likes of Bogans, Finley and Mason. It also precludes small ball.

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    I guess.

    Those 4 players are all going to get 100+ minutes a night for the season. Thats three spots for 126 minutes. 100 mintues is lowballing it.

    You are also basically saying that all of Anderson, Gee, Neal and Temple are not going to merit 26 minutes of average play or at least better than Mason, Bogans and Finley.

    Sure we need those 4 guys to be healthy and a young guy to step up but I just do not see what you are getting at.

    I'm fine with an 10 man rotation of Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson, Duncan, Splitter, McDyess, Hill, Blair, Bonner and Anderson/Gee/Neal/Temple.

    I actually like the fact that we are going to see some young guys get some minutes over the likes of Bogans, Finley and Mason. It also precludes small ball.
    First, there are 144 min available per game on the perimeter. It doesn't change that I agree with you that few minutes behind Parker/Hill/Ginobili/Jefferson will be available when it will matter because they will play significantly more than 100mpg during the playoffs.

    Second, I find that saying Spurs are fine because the situation is better than last year is just flawed logic. Last year depth was a disaster and Spurs got swept in playoffs. Being better than horrible doesn't mean that you're good.

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