Yeah, Kirilenko is soooo clutch in the playoffs.
Which was cute & quaint until the playoffs, then he made ya sorry. The Pistons finally figured that out.
Yeah, Kirilenko is soooo clutch in the playoffs.
I didn't prompt Kirilenko. I asked for an alternative to shortcake Dantley.
Well, Kirklenko, Kelly Tripuka, Byron Russell--who would you choose?
Got to be someone else.
I looked in the NBA Guide and I'm granting on Thurl Bailey.
Wasn't Bailey a PF?
No, he played with Malone.
it's gotta be dantley...there's not even compe ion there..
..another vote for stumpy, eh? Until Detroit ran him off they were doomed.
And they knew it.
Which one?![]()
Thurl was a center. Dantley never scored under 26 ppg in his seven seasons with Utah, played 519 games, led the league in scoring twice, shot .562 in his career with Utah (best in Jazz history, BTW), made the playoffs 3 times, and made the second round twice. He's the all-time leader in PPG and third in total points in franchise history. I'll give you only two guesses for the two names ahead of him. They ran a lot of pick-and-rolls together.
How could it not be Dantley?
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Karl. Eaton was the center.
After Malone got there, Bailey was playing off the bench. He started only 70 games of a possible 492 games during his time with Utah when Eaton and Malone played together.
Fine. I'd still choose him over Dantley.
Yup, Bailey was a PF/C and for the most part came off the bench behind Malone and Eaton. And yeah, Dantley averaged about 30 ppg on 56% shooting in his time at Utah.
It's pretty re ed to even suggest Dantley shouldn't be on the Jazz all time team ahead of Bailey. Even if you disregard the distinction between PF and SF, after Karl Malone, there is no better forward in Jazz history than Dantley. It would be similar to suggesting Kurt Rambis being more deserving to start at small forward over Elgin Baylor or James Worthy on the Lakers all time team.
I'd still take Bailey. He put in yeoman minutes at SF with Utah. They got closer to "it" with him versus Dantley.
ATL: Pete Maravich, Joe Johnson, Dominque Wilkens, Bob Pet , Moses Malone
BOS: Bob Cousy, John Havlicek, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Bill Russell
CHAR: Raymond Felton, Jason Richardson, Gerald Wallce, Boris Diaw, Emeka Okafor
CHI: Norm Van Lier, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Artis Gilmore
CLE: Mark Price, Ron Harper, LeBron James, Shawn Kemp, Brad Daugherty (no Larry Nance ???)
DAL: Steve Nash, Michael Finley, Mark Aguirre, Dirk Nowitzki, Roy Tarpley
DEN: Chauncey Billups, David Thompson, Carmelo Anthony, Antonio McDyess, Dikembe Mutombo
DET: Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Grant Hill, Dennis Rodman, Bob Lanier
GSW: Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Rick Barry, Chris Webber, Wilt Chamberlain
HOU: Calvin Murphy, Clyde drexler, Rudy Tomjanovich, Charles Barkley (over Hayes and Sampson ???), Hakeem Olajuwon
IND: Mark Jackson, Reggie Miller, Chuck Person, Jermaine O'Neal, Rik Smits
LAC: Norm Nixon, Ron Harper, Danny Manning, Elton Brand, Bob McAdoo
LAL: Earvin Johnson, Kobe Bryant, Elgin Baylor, Pau Gasol, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
MEM: Mike Bibby, Mike Miller, Rudy Gay, Sahrif Abdur-Rahim, Pau Gasol
MIA: Tim Hardaway, Dwyane Wade, Glen Rice, Udonis Haslem, Alonzo Mourning
MIL: Oscar Robertson, Ray Allen, Glenn Robinson, Terry mings (virtual tie with Vin Baker), Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
MIN: Stephon Marbury, Isiah Rider, Tony Campbell, Kevin Garnett, Al Jefferson
NJN: Jason Kidd, Vince Carter, Julius Irving, Derrick Coleman, Billy Paultz (?) - either him, Mike Gminski or Sam Bowie
NYK: Walt Frazier, Earl Monroe, Bernard King, Dave DeBusschere, Patrick Ewing
NOH: Chirs Paul, Kendall Gill (virtual tie with Dell Curry), Glen Rice, Larry Johnson, Alonzo Mourning
OKC/SEA: Gary Payton, Ray Allen, Kevin Durant, Shawn Kemp, Jack Sikma
ORL: Anfernee Hardaway, Tracy McGrady, Grant Hill, Rashard Lewis, Shaquille O'Neal
PHI: Maurice Cheeks, Allen Iverson, Julius Irving, Charles Barkley, Wilt Chamberlain
PHX: Steve Nash, Paul Westphal, Shawn Marion, Charles Barkley, Alvan Adams
POR: Terry Porter, Clyde Drexler, Kiki Vandeweghe, Rasheed Wallace, Bill Walton
SAC: Oscar Robertson, Mitch Richmond, Peja Stojakovic, Chris Webber, Vlade Divac
SAS: Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, George Gervin, Tim Duncan, David Robinson
TOR: Damon Stoudamire, Vince Carter, Jalen Rose, Chris Bosh, Antonio Davis
UTA: John Stockton, Pete Maravich, Adrian Dantley, Karl Malone, Mehmet Okur
WAS: Gilbert Arenas, Earl Monroe, Bernard King, Elvin Hayes, Walt Bellamy
The official voting list from each team .......
Lanier, and especially Hill is just f'ing outrageous bull . Hill is present there because of what could have been, i.e., the sympathy factor. Lanier is there because he bullied himself there. Lanier was a loser of epic proportions.
Hill is there because he's badass. The guy was drop-dead as-good-as-Lebron on some bad Pistons teams. He could jump out of the gym and he could run like the wind. He always had a step on his opponent. He could take 2-3 guys on at a time. And, and, his best at ribute was passing and rebounding. That's where he made all the difference. The guy should've been in the Hall-of-Fame and if you look at his Pistons and Duke career, he could still get in. No sympathy. Just recognition.
As for Lanier, I never saw him play.
I don't want to hear about Duke, Darrin. That is inconsequential and you know it.
"should've" defeats your premise.
no disrespect to Shaq, but glad to see Alonzo got the center spot for Heat. Though undersized, he played with such intensity. He gave the heat all hhe had for 40 minutes. I always wanted him in purple & gold, because I thought Shaq was a pipe-dream. Glad it was Shaq, but if Shaq had Zo's drive he would of been the GOAT.
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