Poll: Don't ask don't tell

[Wild Cobra]

President Obama on signing the repeal into law:

"This legislation will make our armed forces even stronger and more inclusive by allowing gay and lesbian soldiers to serve honestly and with integrity,"

Quick! Someone tell them that Wild Cobra figured out they were all wrong!

Put your money where your mouth is dog breath. Show me the legislation.

[Wild Cobra]

Yes, WC. Everyone is an idiot but you. You've got it all figured out and the rest of us are just here taking up space in your world.

Bravo.

If that's what you believe Dog, I'll let you.

[MannyIsGod]

How exactly is doing your web searching for you putting my money where my mouth is? How would I stand to lose money? Do you know what that phrase means?

Also, what type of authority does the ruling from above have when the government chooses not to appeal the ruling?

[MannyIsGod]

Really?

If we get rid of the policy, they can no longer serve. Am I right?

What policy removed the restriction that they cannot serve?

[Wild Cobra]

President Obama on signing the repeal into law:

"This legislation will make our armed forces even stronger and more inclusive by allowing gay and lesbian soldiers to serve honestly and with integrity,"

Quick! Someone tell them that Wild Cobra figured out they were all wrong!

My God Dog.

You can't even get the quote right.

Statement by the President on Votes to Repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”

[MannyIsGod]

I don't either, but to my knowledge, DADT only allows gays to serve because they cannot be asked if they have that as a secret. The military laws appears to remain in force that gays cannot serve, because if they tell, they are kicked out.

I see those wanting to get rid of DADT as falling into two camps.

The ignorant who don't see it as a means to allow gays to serve, and without it they cannot.

Those wo want it removed so gays cannot serve.

Really, what good is removing the policy without changing the military law regarding sexuality in the military?

Such foresight!

Where would the world be without WC to guide us?

[MannyIsGod]

My God Dog.

You can't even get the quote right.

Statement by the President on Votes to Repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”

Um, how exactly was my quote wrong?

[Wild Cobra]

How exactly is doing your web searching for you putting my money where my mouth is? How would I stand to lose money? Do you know what that phrase means?

Also, what type of authority does the ruling from above have when the government chooses not to appeal the ruling?

It's a saying, and you know that, or are you more an idiot than I already believe?

I mean show me a legitimate link. The legislation on the topic is stalled. the court had no authority.

Can you show I'm wrong?

Really now. A California court having jurisdiction over the DOD and the US congress?

Are you and Cucking really that ignorant?

[Wild Cobra]

Um, how exactly was my quote wrong?

[MannyIsGod]

It's a saying, and you know that, or are you more an idiot than I already believe?

I mean show me a legitimate link. The legislation on the topic is stalled. the court had no authority.

Can you show I'm wrong?

Really now. A California court having jurisdiction over the DOD and the US congress?

Are you and Cucking really that ignorant?

.....it was a ruling in a FEDERAL court.

Jesus Christ, why don't you just stop posting?

[MannyIsGod]

Oh you think it was wrong because I didn't include the whole statement. I see you also don't know how quotes work. Why should I expect you to get ANYTHING right in this thread?

[MannyIsGod]

Also whether or not the legislation is stalled is irrelevant. You made the point in this thread that the repeal would not let gays openly serve and that no one had thought this through when the legislation in question is obviously nothing like you would like to think.

[Wild Cobra]

Oh you think it was wrong because I didn't include the whole statement. I see you also don't know how quotes work. Why should I expect you to get ANYTHING right in this thread?

Partially playing with you. You left out the word "help."

[Wild Cobra]

being the Devils Advocate, consider this.

If we assume the ruling is correct, and with why it was deemed uncons utional, then gays are no longer under the protection of DADT. It violated the equal protection clause because heterosexuals can express their preferences, but sexuals couldn't. Now I skipped around and didn't read the whole 85 pages of the ruling, but as I read it, it only struck down the DADT provisions. Not the right of the armed forces to keep gays from serving.

Am I right or wrong? can you show me I'm wrong?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

devils advocate my ass

[fraga]

being the Devils Advocate, consider this.

If we assume the ruling is correct, and with why it was deemed uncons utional, then gays are no longer under the protection of DADT. It violated the equal protection clause because heterosexuals can express their preferences, but sexuals couldn't. Now I skipped around and didn't read the whole 85 pages of the ruling, but as I read it, it only struck down the DADT provisions. Not the right of the armed forces to keep gays from serving.

Am I right or wrong? can you show me I'm wrong?

Gays were NEVER under the "protection" of don't ask don't tell...if the Military thinks you're gay...they're gonna find out...one way or the other...numerous soldiers have been kicked out because they were probed on the subject...straight up asked...or assumed...these poor people were/are serving in fear...

[CuckingFunt]

I just showed you current law, and you don't have the integrity to say you were wrong.

Bye.

These are my posts in this thread leading up to your posting the verbiage of DADT policy:

There are no "gay issues," only human/equal rights issues.

No. You are not.

Because I've actually researched the issue before spouting off at the mouth.

Kind of hard to link to articles and essays I've read on actual paper. My interests extend beyond interweb arguments.

Please let me know which one was proven wrong by showing me the current law.

[CuckingFunt]

Except in this case where it's a gay issue

Except that it's not.

Military life is probably super rewarding and enjoyable for heterosexual personnel who are wrongly suspected and/or accused of being sexual and placed in a position of proving their own sexuality.

[MannyIsGod]

@ Devil's advocate

More like dunces advocate.

[ElNono]

This is what happens when you're out of touch with reality... Heck, I don't even follow this issue and read about the Log Cabin Republicans case.

[MannyIsGod]

This is what happens when you're out of touch with reality... Heck, I don't even follow this issue and read about the Log Cabin Republicans case.

Yeah but according to the devil's advocate over there a federal district court has no authority.

[ElNono]

Yeah but according to the devil's advocate over there a federal district court has no authority.

Fringe radio probably didn't explain to him that federal court has authority to declare federal law uncons utional...

[CuckingFunt]

Now I skipped around and didn't read the whole 85 pages of the ruling, but as I read it,

In case you're wondering, this is why people don't want to invest a lot of time and energy into researching for you.

[MannyIsGod]

Fringe radio probably didn't explain to him that federal court has authority to declare federal law uncons utional...

Oh I think the problem here is that he didn't spend four weeks as a contractor at a federal court with a gay judge in the 1800s. If he had he'd be telling us all about the court's authority on DADT.

[MannyIsGod]

For the record, Ive not read the entire ruling and yet I've somehow managed to learn the following:

-Why it was declared uncons utional
-Which court declared it so
-That this does not mean sexuals will not be able to serve.