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Given that our military wasn't professional enough to avoid making Iraqi POWs perform sexual actions on one another that's more of a pipe dream than hope.
Get rid of it.
Keep it in place.
I don't give two shits about it.
I would hope that too, but I don't believe that to be the case. That's why I used to think that for the sake of morale and efficiency, DADT was probably the best option. But after seeing the quality of soldiers being "outed," motivated soldiers ready and willing to serve but victims of smears, it's unfair in its application and to have soldiers living in fear of being outed is not good for morale either. Just because someone is gay does not make them gots, I'm sure there's plenty of straight gots openly serving in the military that do MUCH more harm to military.
Given that our military wasn't professional enough to avoid making Iraqi POWs perform sexual actions on one another that's more of a pipe dream than hope.
O'Dumbell: s/lesbos have iden y disorders
(which means her lesbo sister is mentally ill)
The equally ignorant, hate-filled, gay-baiting Family Research Council approves.
From what I saw in my time in, most enlisted (read: grunts) don't have a problem serving with gay people. It often happens that there are a few phobic higher-ups (NCOs or officers) who use what power they have to push their personal issues - to the point of bullying and threatening straight people beneath them in the chain of command to speak out against the sexual individual. That's not always how things occur, of course, but that's what I've seen.
If a man/woman is going to put their life on the line for you, their sexual reference should not even be a care.
Spartans diddled with one another between battles and are looked up to by every generation of macho warrior for the last 2500 years.
Oh, I'm sure there will be incidents; but that can't be avoided, civilian or military life. I said we SHOULD be professional enough, and we should hold our military to professional standards.
The Abu Ghrabi thing was not only a failure of professionalism, but a failure of leadership. There's no way that stuff goes on without an implicit wink and nod from up high.
Democrats couldn't get the support they needed to move the legislation forward - sooo, for all intents and purposes, it's dead. The Senate probably won't bring it up again before November 2nd, and if the dems lose several seats, they won't be able to do anything about it later. Supporters of the legislation felt this was their best shot - and it failed.
It didn't help that the man Obama picked to head up the Marines was against repealing DADT.
The gays will just have to stay in the closet.
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Those poor fruity bas s...
You're right. However, in many people's mind, there is no difference in having to share a common barracks and common shower with sexuals, as with the opposite sex. When the showers become coed, then sexual preference truly doesn't matter.
If those of you wanting gays to be able to openly serve, but cannot acknowledge this simple truth, then you are lost in your agenda.
WC, gay soldiers do not want to look at you in the shower.
Except that you seemed to have missed that the law was deemed uncons utional. Whether your like it or not, this country will be held to the standards of equality set forth by its highest law.
Isn't that a ?
Or at the bowling alley.
Repugs blocked the defense spending bill to block the DADT repeal
Why else do you think the Dems tacked it on, boutons?
I think they tacked it on to pass the legislation. They had a legit shot at it and its something that is clearly on the agenda to fix on as friendly terms as possible to the military. Should a court ruling come through it could be much uglier for all involved.
Its going to be settled one way or another in favor of repealing this legislation. It was better than the status quo when it was passed but we've definitely progressed as a society on this issue and its time for us to adhere to the principles we allegedly hold so high.
They might look if the bowling alley is off-base. Or is that a violation too? o.O
Its a violation no matter where you do it and no matter how they find out. The current case of the female major who is suing for reinstatement is a great example of that. Woman goes out of her way to avoid putting it out in the face of anyone she serves with and keeps it extremely on the downlow. She gets a new GF who's ex husband finds out and rats her out. Career down the drain.
Only 2.2 percent of the military are gay, bi sexual or lesbian. This is really much to do about nothing. So I don't give two s about it.
Much to do about nothing except that 2.2 percent. Its probably higher than that, though.
Actually, some Republicans favored getting rid of DADT. The entire bill didn't pass because of political bickering about adding new amendments.
How do you know how many if you can't ask and they can't tell?
Well, it's a valid gripe, though one I would have preferred come up when an amendment to a defense spending bill banned online gambling...
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