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Ok. Let me make it simpler.
You're ok with him banging other girls
A. Yes
B. No
You were mad he banged someone and kept it from you?
A. Yes
B. No
Also, I did not eat a plane ticket. I tore up an $800 check and an $800 dollar travel voucher, threw away my id and passport and tossed the last 6 euros I had for the shuttle to the airport down the storm drain.
I showed faith, and I have been rewarded.
Ok. Let me make it simpler.
You're ok with him banging other girls
A. Yes
B. No
You were mad he banged someone and kept it from you?
A. Yes
B. No
B and A respectively.
Had he been honest enough to tell me, before ing around, that he was no longer in seeing me exclusively, though, I may have been okay with scaling back to a more casual relationship. Or, I may not have been. Impossible to answer now. But, at the time, the fact that he ed a couple other women paled in importance to the fact that he didn't respect me enough to let me make decisions in the course of my own life.
Ok, but it sounds like now, by what you wrote, that it wouldn't be ok that he screwed around on you. But like you said, who knows. The main thing you said was respect. All parties should respect others and themselves equally.
No dude's going to tell you that. That's just not the way we roll.
Poorly worded on my part, perhaps.
I don't imagine much of anyone would use their desire to start sleeping with other people as a conversation starter, but I think there are plenty of people (men AND women) who are mature enough to voice their concerns within a relationship before it gets to the point of lying and ing around. Once that conversation happens, all other decisions -- exclusivity, staying together, breaking up, trying to revive the love life, whatever -- can be made as a team, rather than one person unilaterally making decisions that affect both people.
That's kind of my problem with cheating, really. There may be exceptions within the example of one-time drunken mistakes, but it has been my experience that most cheating includes a moment in which you're faced with the choice of working at fixing a broken relationship, or lazily ignoring the problems and sneaking around. The latter choice includes such a level of disrespect for your partner that, to me, the sex part becomes irrelevant.
Just because we are more advanced doesn't mean we aren't animals...Until I see an animal, cut a 1/2 acre yard and edge it, wash and wax an automobile..........write a research paper, speak a few sentences of English, hit a home run in a ballpark, rebuild the motor in a boat or truck, construct a house or building........make millions a year in sports, invent any damn thing in the world.......etc. etc. etc............. animals and humans will never be the same.
Honestly I have reason to believe you haven't completed high school by the way you've built your argument.
There's nothing negative about considering us, humans, as animals.
I have this strange urge to take Summers and Cucking Funt out for a nice seafood dinner...
If we were animals, that is WTF we would be called!!!
We are humans plain and simple. There really isnt anything to discuss. If we were one in the same why hasnt anyone ever ed an ANIMAL and had a child with it.....or cub, or pup, or whatever. Animals and humans are two completely different organisms.
To be honest............with all of YOU so called internet scholars in here, why havent I heard one decent argument as to humans being animals??? Sure humans act like in animals all the time, but that doesnt mean they are one.
Oh really..or how about humans, technically sapiens, are a species?If we were animals, that is WTF we would be called!!!
We are humans plain and simple. There really isnt anything to discuss. If we were one in the same why hasnt anyone ever ed an ANIMAL and had a child with it.....or cub, or pup, or whatever. Animals and humans are two completely different organisms.
To help your dumb ass out: Why do we call dogs, "dogs"? ... I know why, because we can't just call everything animals.
Wiki:
Humans, known taxonomically as sapiens (Latin: "wise man" or "knowing man"),[3][4] are the only living species in the genus of bipedal primates in Hominidae, the great ape family.
LOL comparing humans to animals
Seriously, LOL very hard
Why don't snakes birds? They're both animals right? ing re , use your brain.
And just to go beyond the point, a side note, is every single term humans have come up with accurate or true, and not misleading? As if we are perfect, we've come up with stupid ass terms all the time, and we continue to do it as a society, all the time.
But really in this case, there is no flaw, we are just a different specie of animal.
And does that have any negative connotation to it? no. Who the seriously cares that we are animals? If that's the type of thing that would bother your self-vision of yourself and fellow humans, you just might deserve to be more of what you traditionally define as an instinctive animal.
Use your human brain.
Still nothing you said makes me remotely believe humans and animals are one in the same. Your argument sucks as much ass as all the others.
Again, there IS NO ARGUMENT. I'm not going to argue about FACTS. It is fact whether you believe it or not.
Dont get me started on that evolution ...............if we are from the ape family and evolved from them..........why the are there still apes. Also, why hasnt a damn thing evolved in what hundreds of millions of years? What is the next animal............errrrr human to evolve?
And does that have any negative connotation to it? no. Who the seriously cares that we are animals? If that's the type of thing that would bother your self-vision of yourself and fellow humans, you just might deserve to be more of what you traditionally define as an instinctive animal.
Use your human brain.
Again, there IS NO ARGUMENT. I'm not going to argue about FACTS. It is fact whether you believe it or not.
They are facts to YOU, you will get arguments against what you believe all day long. There are no facts on this.............it theory. Humans are not animals, unless you believe in evolution. Which I dont. God created man and god then created animals, to which man named. Go ahead and believe in your theory. If cool with me.
I know this isn't the troll forum.. but mouse needs to get in here and rack this ing thread
Nobody can be this stupid.
Humans aren't animals?
Sending Summers a PM.....
When you show me a poodle walking a human around, wiping up his ............then I will believe it.Nobody can be this stupid.
Humans aren't animals?
My God, man, is that how you frame your argument about evolution?Dont get me started on that evolution ...............if we are from the ape family and evolved from them..........why the are there still apes. Also, why hasnt a damn thing evolved in what hundreds of millions of years? What is the next animal............errrrr human to evolve?
If you dont understand something, just say so, dont open your mouth and spout nonsense.
Its better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Humans did not evolve from apes, just as apes did not evolve from humans.
We just have a common ancestor. The family tree split, one side are the primates (chimps, orangs, gorillas, etc) and the other is sapien sapien (humans).
Last I read, science uses "sapien" twice when referring to modern man. That way no one gets confused about the same sapiens that lived at the same time as neanderthals.
Just ask, man. You dont want to believe it? Fine. But dont talk about it if you obviously dont udnerstand even the most rudimentary aspects.
Religion prospers in ignorance.
The main question is "How many centuries of educating the general populous does it take to get past this?"
Best Explination so far...
Like I said, you believe in the THEORY of evolution. Why is this so hard to understand ......... Mr. internet scholar? Can you friggen read??
You will never convince those who believe in god that evolution took place. There are as many holes in the evolution THEORY as there are in the creation THEORY.
So your argument sucks as badly as the next one.
Oh yeah.................... Humans are not animals.
Mr Internet Scholar?Like I said, you believe in the THEORY of evolution. Why is this so hard to understand ......... Mr. internet scholar? Can you friggen read??
You will never convince those who believe in god that evolution took place. There are as many holes in the evolution THEORY as there are in the creation THEORY.
So your argument sucks as badly as the next one.
Oh yeah.................... Humans are not animals.
Look, bud, youre the one trying to degrade evolution, not me. But you dont even understand evolution and that is...kind of a requirement when trying to criticize something.
You lack even the most basic, rudimentary understanding of evolution.
Which is totally fine. Just dont ever talk about it, or criticize it, or scoff at it publicly unless you enjoy looking like an ostrich with your head in the sand.
Do I understand every aspect of every religion's creation story? No. Do I have the cliff notes on Christianty's version? Yes.
Therefore, I can half-ass speak semi-intelligently about the 6-7 days it took God to create existence as we know it.
You, otoh, cant even frame your target subject correctly in the most rudimentary form. Just because you dont personally "believe" in evolution doesnt mean you cant have an understanding of its underlying principles. Just as non-secular people at least have a basic understanding of religion, even though they dont choose to believe in any.
Its called expanding your horizons. You dont want to "believe" in evolution...dude, thats totally fine, its a free country and I have personally met and worked with extremely intelligent people who are Creationists through and through.
But they also didnt just ignore its existence, certainly not to the extent that they would make some comment like "Humans came from apes?! that, doooood" because they know how incredibly dumb and uninformed that would make them look.
Thats all I am saying, juding by the internet scholar crack, youre not interested in anything but your narrow view anyway. I have actually read a good portion of Romans from the Bible, even though I wasnt reading it as a spiritual guide, I still wanted to read an important story that has influenced so many billions of people over time. My intention is to actually read the entire Bible, not to be able to argue for/against it, but because of its influence and historical significance.
Is it too much for you to read and understand something as profound to the world of science as Darwin's Origin of the Species [revised]? Or is that too much for you? Have you ever read anything you didnt agree with/didnt like?
Its called having an open mind, even to things you dont agree with/never will agree with. Intellectual curiosity, yes even to things you are diametrically opposed to. That was my one and only point.
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Whoaaaa ............ OK.
My point .......... Humans are not animals.
But we are, that is my point. Our physiology (lungs, eyes, heart-valves, hair, genitals, feet, skin, liver, etc, etc, etc, etc) are found in every mammal on the planet.
Really, if you are able to look at it objectively, the only difference between humans and any other mammal is intelligence and irrationality.
Thats it.
So if your similarities number in the (literally) thousands and your dissimilarities number less than 10, its disingenuous and patently unscientific to say you are not a member of the family Animalia, especially since that term is expansive and encompassing.
No one is arguing that we are members of Plantae or Fungi, just that we share an almost numberless similar characteristics with specific animals (namely Mammalia).
You just cannot ignore the physical similarities, objectively. , even the social constructs are eeirly similar with specific mammals (namely primates). Too many to name, that all.
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