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    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    Dr. Jack Ramsay: "I rate him (Kobe Bryant) as the best finisher of all-time, not just for the one last shot--for which Michael Jordan was understandably famous and well-recognized--but he'll make consecutive shots. He will make the shots that bring you back into a game and then will continue to knock down shots until the game is won. I have never seen anybody like Kobe Bryant in that regard."
    http://espn.go.com/nba/features/legendsfromlegends

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    He needs to put the crack pipe down.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Bryant is killer.

    Without those 6 last second winners last season I'm probably sittin' over at Luva's house right now, in his basement, with my in one hand, a bowl of plain label cereal from Ralph's in the other, listening to Luva lament Kor I. Ellis delayin' his reinstatement.

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    Ramsay is more senile than Popovich


    And why the is he talking about making ONE shot?

    Didny MJ score 19 pts in the final 6 minutes vs the Grizzlies, bringing the Bulls back in the game to win it, on the road ?

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Kobe will also crap the bed and need to be saved by his teammates. Ramsay has lost it. Yes, Kobe is a great finisher but I think Ramsay is tasting that ass a bit too much. Certainly in the conversation, but Jordan and Bird and their resumes stand on their own in the argument. For what it's worth, even though he was one-dimensional and he's annoying as as a broadcast analyst, Reggie Miller would be high on my list as well. In many situations, I'd want him taking the last shot to finish the game.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Accomplish it, Mitc .

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Ramsay is more senile than Popovich


    And why the is he talking about making ONE shot?

    Didny MJ score 19 pts in the final 6 minutes vs the Grizzlies, bringing the Bulls back in the game to win it, on the road ?
    T-Mac scored 13 points in 35 seconds to end a game.

    T-Mac > MJ as a finisher???

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    T-Mac scored 13 points in 35 seconds to end a game.

    T-Mac > MJ as a finisher???
    Wow

    I was commenting on the fact that Ramsay said MJ only scored the big basket, as opposed to Kobe who would score consecutive points late in a game to keep his team in it.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Wow

    I was commenting on the fact that Ramsay said MJ only scored the big basket, as opposed to Kobe who would score consecutive points late in a game to keep his team in it.
    which is "practically" correct, right?

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Kobe showed the Suns how to finish a game 7 in the 1st round alright.

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    which is "practically" correct, right?
    You stacked !!!

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    yah its tuff to win a game 7 on the road...thats for sure.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    You stacked !!!
    no you stacked.

    you got Duncan, Lebron, Wade and Ginobli all in one team!

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    "The ball don't lie." dbestpro's Avatar
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    ......and 15 minutes later he was asked about MJ, which he said was the best finisher of all time.

    ........ and 15 minutes after that he was asked about Oscar, which he said was the best finisher of all time.

    .......and 15 minutes after that he was asked again about Kobe, which he said no thanks I don't like Japenese food and flipped the remote to Nickolodeon to watch SpongeBob SquarePants.

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    Tim Duncan #1 TheNextGen's Avatar
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    ......and 15 minutes later he was asked about MJ, which he said was the best finisher of all time.
    ........ and 15 minutes after that he was asked about Oscar, which he said was the best finisher of all time.

    .......and 15 minutes after that he was asked about Kobe, which he said no thanks I don't like Japenese food and flipped the remote to Nickolodeon to watch SpongeBob SquarePants.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Kobe showed the Suns how to finish a game 7 in the 1st round alright.
    Your Rodman quit under similar cir stance, Amb.

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    no you stacked.

    you got Duncan, Lebron, Wade and Ginobli all in one team!
    San Antonio Heat FTW !

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Wow

    I was commenting on the fact that Ramsay said MJ only scored the big basket, as opposed to Kobe who would score consecutive points late in a game to keep his team in it.
    Ramsay didn't say MJ could only score on the last shot. He merely suggested MJ was known for that more and that in his experiencing watching Kobe that Kobe would make also make consecutive shots late in a game to win it. That doesn't mean MJ never did that. Heck, you can find non HOF players who have done it more than one time. NBA players get hot from the field, go off. You can go from MJ to Kobe to Reggie to T-Mac to Rodney Rogers to John Starks to Nate Robinson.

    Greatness isn't measured by one great performance or even a couple of great performances. Greatness is measured by the consistency at which a "great" player can perform like that. I'm sure MJ had many performances where he went off late in the fourth quarter to take over and win a game. Ramsay is saying he hasn't seen anyone else that has done it like Kobe.

    He may be senile for thinking that. But you criticized him incorrectly.

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    Ramsay didn't say MJ could only score on the last shot. He merely suggested MJ was known for that more and that in his experiencing watching Kobe that Kobe would make also make consecutive shots late in a game to win it. That doesn't mean MJ never did that. Heck, you can find non HOF players who have done it more than one time. NBA players get hot from the field, go off. You can go from MJ to Kobe to Reggie to T-Mac to Rodney Rogers to John Starks to Nate Robinson.

    Greatness isn't measured by one great performance or even a couple of great performances. Greatness is measured by the consistency at which a "great" player can perform like that. I'm sure MJ had many performances where he went off late in the fourth quarter to take over and win a game. Ramsay is saying he hasn't seen anyone else that has done it like Kobe.

    He may be senile for thinking that. But you criticized him incorrectly.
    We`re all senile

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    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    Kobe didn't quit Game 7 against Phoenix. It was obvious his scoring is not going to pull them back into the game. Kobe had a 50 point performance in Game 6 and they lost. He had 23 points (8-13) on pace for another 50 in the first half of Game 7 and the Suns were still up by a huge margin.


    "We wanted to get back in the game so we were running things through other guys," Lakers coach Phil Jackson said after the game. LA's 2nd and 3rd best players that night shot 35 percent combined on the floor (32-of-91). Walton scored 16 and Lamar Odom 12 for the Lakers. You can't pin this one on Kobe when its obvious LA's best chance of winning the series did not show up.


    Kobe had a miscalculation and trusted his teammates at the wrong time, that much is true, but he didn't quit. Scottie Pippen refusing to come into the game against the Knicks in 94 is a good example of a player quitting on his team. Faking an injury or refusing to suit up are another.

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    Miscalculation

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    I always thought Kareem was money. Kobe has 28 game winners, and MJ has 23. With two minutes left in the game I'd go with Kobe shooting the rock.
    That's probably because he shoots it off in your ass, or did you tell him not to ?

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    San Antonio Heat FTW !
    yes, i am FTW.

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    Ramsay has lost it….Comparing Kobe to some guy from the 80’s who won because the Lakers & Celtics were old & rebuilding is a joke…If you put a REAL list of the top 10 NBA players of all time together; Jordan would NOT be on it…Since Kobe turned 20, the Bulls have won squat....

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    In Flames we trust eisfeld's Avatar
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    Was this ever a question?
    Kobe is not MJ but on the other hand MJ is not Kobe.
    Kobe can spark his team to the max - making it possible to win so many games.
    He's a master at going on a streak to bring the Lakers back into the game.
    The only thing he's not good at is the last minute winning shot. Don't get me wrong - He hit dozens of them, but his FG% in these situations is bad - but with Kobe you won't need to take those shots very often - that's why he's so valuable.

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