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    Kirilenko and Favors to Denver

    Devin Harris to Charlotte, Boris Diaw to Utah Stein reporting plus "other contracts to make it work"

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    sometimes i wonder how so many Spurs "fans" don't comprehend the value of defense, and how it plays into evaluating NBA talent.

    07-08 Tony was scoring on teams at will and getting scored on at will...especially at games end when he was gassed.

    Ive seen Chauncy lock folks down for years. Ive seen him defend the best in the leagu. Ive seen Rondo dig in on D time and again, and Ive seen him win games with his defense.

    The best Parker can do is play good team D when he's motivated. Which hasnt happened since 06-07. And I believe that the amount of defense he plays is directly inverse to the amount of effort he expends on the offensive end. So all that scoring comes at a price.

    One is young and in his prime the other declining.


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    One is young and in his prime the other declining.


    Go away.
    That would make your day wouldnt it?

    I dont need to harp, but when the delusional TP fanboys infest a given thread, I feel its only proper to give the other side of the coin. To beat the drum of Spurs defense.

    Parker had a chance to shut down the criticism himself last year. Even before his injuries, his defense was d-grade and his shot was gone.

    But he had his drive I guess

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    That would make your day wouldnt it?

    I dont need to harp, but when the delusional TP fanboys infest a given thread, I feel its only proper to give the other side of the coin. To beat the drum of Spurs defense.

    Parker had a chance to shut down the criticism himself last year. Even before his injuries, his defense was d-grade and his shot was gone.

    But he had his drive I guess

    TP fanboys = rational?


    Yeah an aging Chauncey Billups for a young all star point guard is a genius trade!

    Keep convincing yourself that attention .

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    Why would Anthony want to go to NJ?

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    LMAO Melo

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    Why would Anthony want to go to NJ?
    1 when they move to Brooklyn he'd be the centerpiece of the team.

    New Jersey seems to be giving up alot.

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    what corpse starts at pg for the nets? otherwise its a good move. dont tell me its Farmar? lol!

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    I don't know, giving up Favors and Harris is giving up half the core of your team. But on the other hand, you can still get a decent lineup out of that.

    Jordan Farmar
    Terrence Williams
    Carmelo Anthony
    Troy Murphy
    Brook Lopez

    Could be a playoff team soon with that. But you'd have to do something about the PG position.

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    Lopez
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    Farmar

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    I would think that with a scorer like Melo you'd move Terrence Williams to SG and start him as your defensive stopper instead of starting a guy who's a three point shooter like Anthony Morrow.

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    Favors must be happy to hear all this speculation, along with the rumor that Avery isn't too high on him...and all this before the training camp even starts...welcome to the NBA...

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    somewhere kobe is is serving himself some chapagne. the west gets even easier.

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    TP fanboys = rational?


    Yeah an aging Chauncey Billups for a young all star point guard is a genius trade!

    Keep convincing yourself that attention .
    sure thing, controlling prick

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    Why would Anthony want to go to NJ?
    He probably just wants to get the out of Denver and doesn't care where he goes. The Nuggets are a talented team, but they are a mess chemistry wise and most of them don't have the IQ to change a light bulb. I feel bad for George Karl. His reputation is going down the toilet coaching those idiots.

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    Why would Anthony want to go to NJ?
    because he is from Brooklyn, to where the Nets will move soon?
    because he wants the NY market and flair?
    because his wife wants to live and work in NY?
    because the Nets do have some promising talent to work with?
    because Prokhorov can and will trow a boatload of money on the Nets?
    because on a single Prokhorov party he will meet more VIPs than in ten years in Denver?

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    How is Utah saving money here? I can't access the numbers.

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    because he is from Brooklyn, to where the Nets will move soon?
    He is from Baltimore.

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    Utah getting Boris? Did they not see how fat he was in the world championships?

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    He is from Baltimore.
    born in Brooklyn and lived there till he was 8 years old.
    then he moved to Baltimore.

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    what corpse starts at pg for the nets? otherwise its a good move. dont tell me its Farmar? lol!
    Rumor has it that the Nets will get DJ Augustin as well.

    How is Utah saving money here? I can't access the numbers.
    Kirilenko is due to make $17,823,000. The only two names that have been said to be going to Jazz at the moment are Diaw and Quinton Ross, who add up to $10.1 mil. Obviously there will need to be other contract filler added to make the numbers work, but presumably they can get the contracts right such that they save enough money to get under the luxury tax.

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    I'm not going to run the complicated numbers to see what the Jazz hit against the tax is, but their raw salary numbers add up to $75.7 million, and the luxury tax threshold is $70.3 million. Presumably by shaving off however much they can in this AK trade, plus the fact that they're paying 3-4 players less than what they were paying AK, would be enough to get them under the tax.

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    That's what I thought bc I did not see a team absorbing salaries so others, like Utah, could take back less than they gave out.

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    Favors must be happy to hear all this speculation, along with the rumor that Avery isn't too high on him...and all this before the training camp even starts...welcome to the NBA...
    For real? I haven't heard that. I read a while back that Avery said that Derrick Favors reminded him of Tim Duncan. I know it's a pipedream, but I wish the Spurs could find a way to get him. I wanted them to move up to the #3 spot in the draft and get him.

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    Apparently NJ would also get DJ Agustin back.


    Very nice trade for NJ if they got Mello AND Agustin..

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