HOF Coach Dr, jack Ramsay: Kobe is the best finisher of all time

[JamStone]

Wasn't there a stat passed around the forums recently that showed that Kobe was not even in the top 10 in the NBA in shooting percentage in crunch time? He was 12th or 16th, way behind Manu and Wade who were both in the top 10.

Don't know. Could be.

As I mentioned above, Kobe has so much confidence in his game and preparation for those types of moments that he often takes ill-advised shots no matter how well defended where a lot of other players would pass the ball and certainly not take the shot. Look at a lot of other players who have good shooting percentages in crunch time or with game winning shots, and if you had the video, I'd look at how many of those shots were good looks, decently open attempts. I don't have any statistical evidence for this. I'm just saying I'd be willing to bet that most of those players don't take the ridiculously difficult shots that Kobe does in crunchtime and with the game on the line.

Again, that's also a negative on Kobe as he's stubborn with poor shot selection when he has his mind made up he's going to shoot the ball. But to me, that also tells me in his utter confidence in his game and ability to make shots, his lack of fear for failure, and his superior ability to take and sometimes make what appear to be impossible shots.

[Gold Tooth Carl]

I'm about to three-peat... again.

True Dat playa playa, you take in the ass like no other, raise that banner pimpy...By the way, you're on the clock at 6:00 pm tonight, betta bring me my money sucka!

[Cry Havoc]

Don't know. Could be.

As I mentioned above, Kobe has so much confidence in his game and preparation for those types of moments that he often takes ill-advised shots no matter how well defended where a lot of other players would pass the ball and certainly not take the shot. Look at a lot of other players who have good shooting percentages in crunch time or with game winning shots, and if you had the video, I'd look at how many of those shots were good looks, decently open attempts. I don't have any statistical evidence for this. I'm just saying I'd be willing to bet that most of those players don't take the ridiculously difficult shots that Kobe does in crunchtime and with the game on the line.

Again, that's also a negative on Kobe as he's stubborn with poor shot selection when he has his mind made up he's going to shoot the ball. But to me, that also tells me in his utter confidence in his game and ability to make shots, his lack of fear for failure, and his superior ability to take and sometimes make what appear to be impossible shots.

Good post. I don't think we'd ever disagree that Kobe struggles with confidence.

[Dan Gilbert]

One things for sure, LeTraitor James isn't in the conversation!

That so called "king" will never win anything. He left his home and the people who looked after him, supported and made excuses for his spoiled ways and poor at ude.

Let me make this as clear as day, LeTraitor James will never EVER win a championship. The curse is now HIS to bear.

Those big muscles and that large anatomy may glisten in the sun or in the incandescent lights, under which those hamstrings and groin were massaged daily with warm buttermilk, and they may be well taken care of, pristine, otherworldly and irresistible even... but you will never- EVER- win a championship to display them doused in a championship champagne celebration with an owner like myself "Dan Gilbert" to make sure all that lubrication doesn't go to waste. NEVER!!!!

WHERE'S YOUR CROWN KING JAMES?!?!?

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT CURSE YOU HAD PUT ON YOU UPON LEAVING!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA

GROW THE UP YOU PRIMADONNA, IMMATURE BRAT!!!!

GET READY TO BE OWNED BY THE TRUE HEART AND SOUL OF THE CAVS!!!

[Cry Havoc]

One things for sure, LeTraitor James isn't in the conversation!

That so called "king" will never win anything. He left his home and the people who looked after him, supported and made excuses for his spoiled ways and poor at ude.

Let me make this as clear as day, LeTraitor James will never EVER win a championship. The curse is now HIS to bear.

Those big muscles and that large anatomy may glisten in the sun or in the incandescent lights, under which those hamstrings and groin were massaged daily with warm buttermilk, and they may be well taken care of, pristine, otherworldly and irresistible even... but you will never- EVER- win a championship to display them doused in a championship champagne celebration with an owner like myself "Dan Gilbert" to make sure all that lubrication doesn't go to waste. NEVER!!!!

WHERE'S YOUR CROWN KING JAMES?!?!?

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT CURSE YOU HAD PUT ON YOU UPON LEAVING!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA

GROW THE UP YOU PRIMADONNA, IMMATURE BRAT!!!!

GET READY TO BE OWNED BY THE TRUE HEART AND SOUL OF THE CAVS!!!

4.5/10. Good idea, could have been executed so much more effectively.

[Native American]

No one cares about the misses, only the ones that go in that lead to wins.

I understand how you feel. Our tribe holds bow and arrow compe ions and our brother Eagle Eye has often split an arrow already in the bullseye in two with his superior marksmanship. We are often left in awe. I imagine it's similar with Kobe fans who just become speechless when Kobe shoots the ball for the win. And by that I mean I'm sure it's hard for you to speak with Kobe's balls on your chin.

[21_Blessings]

So much asshurt in this here thread.

Get used to it; Kobe's on his way to 7

[Gold Tooth Carl]

I understand how you feel. Our tribe holds bow and arrow compe ions and our brother Eagle Eye has often split an arrow already in the bullseye in two with his superior marksmanship. We are often left in awe. I imagine it's similar with Kobe fans who just become speechless when Kobe shoots the ball for the win. And by that I mean I'm sure it's hard for you to speak with Kobe's balls on your chin.

Playa Playa

So much asshurt in this here thread.

Get used to it; Kobe's on his way to 7

Pimp, your math skills are atrocious, he won't even get to number 6. But, since you are good at riding that pole, I'll put you on the streets, since I know you will make me mad money

[Cry Havoc]

Imagine the hate they'll have when Kobe tops MJ with 7

lol @ being the best player in the NBA for one season.

[21_Blessings]

6 is practically wrapped up.

Assuming they lockout part of the season people can forget about the Lakers ing up the 4peat. Give the Laker vets that much rest and it just becomes unfair.

[Giuseppe]

Imagine the hate they'll have when Kobe tops MJ with 7

tee, hee.

[Killakobe81]

Or you could watch a lot of Lakers games where Kobe would actually pass the ball to teammates late in games and watch them fail to come through time after time and then you realize as selfish as it appears, you'd still rather watch Kobe go into chuck mode with the game on the line than watching Farmar or Shannon Brown or Artest building houses along the side of the backboard.

Kobe is and pretty much always has been a selfish and volume scorer. Doesn't mean there isn't good reason for it or that he's not a clutch shooter.

Fair post. I think volume scorer is the best way to put it. Because volume shooter isnt quite right either. I think high degree of difficulty/volume scorer is even more accurate. I watch almost all Laker games and i never get mad that kobe shoots a lot as long as they are "good looks" ..I hate when he takes a difficult shot over 2 defenders especially when he is 1 for his last 5. That makes no sense to me. Now, there are times when i say Bad shot and Kobe knocks it in ...but i know make or miss that is HORRIBLE shot selection. But he makes a lot of those and that is why he is an amazing closer. He is willing to take the shot whether he misses or not. Sometimes he comes up short. But i would take Kobe in that situation (closer) not because he is better than MJ (he is not) or a better pure shooter than Reggie miller but because many end of game shots arent "open or good looks" they need to be taken off the wrong foot over a big man that has come over to help, and Kobe is the best at THOSE type of shots.
As for Ramsey so he think kobe's a great closer? he did NOT say kobe is better than MJ only guy in the national media that has even thrown that out there is mark jackson and my guess after 6-24 ...he takes that back. yes some Laker fans overrate Kobe ... but I think out of the players i have seen with my own eyes i have him ranked fairly. Below Mj and Magic but right there with duncan a slight notch above shaq and Bird.

[Obstructed_View]

Or you could watch a lot of Lakers games where Kobe would actually pass the ball to teammates late in games and watch them fail to come through time after time and then you realize as selfish as it appears, you'd still rather watch Kobe go into chuck mode with the game on the line than watching Farmar or Shannon Brown or Artest building houses along the side of the backboard.

Kobe is and pretty much always has been a selfish and volume scorer. Doesn't mean there isn't good reason for it or that he's not a clutch shooter.

Nice theory, except that Kobe doesn't pass to teammates late in games. He'd usually prefer to put up a fadeaway three with two guys in his shorts than pass to his teammates. He's not a clutch shooter, he's a selfish player who hogs up all the shots in crunch time so he can have the glory, and he's given a pass on it by far too many people.

Jordan Farmar on the floor with the game on the line? What Laker games have you been watching?

[Koolaid_Man]

TBH I really don't give a about any of this conversation...My job here is not to convince you or change your mind but simply to ALL OVA YOU IN TRUE KOOLAID FASHION...

Fact is I'm getting outta the business of comparing my guy to other so called stars...He's way more accomplished than that...It's time we compare Kobe to what we rightfully should and that's other NBA franchises because he is after all a franchise unto himself. My guy has 5 rings count em gots...more than all NBA teams Except Boston and Chicago ( LA les not factored) and soon it will be:

Lakers 18
Boston 17
Kobe 7

all your hating BSPN style analysis...Suck a and die es...

[redzero]

lol moved to the troll forum

WTF?

[ezau]

I understand how you feel. Our tribe holds bow and arrow compe ions and our brother Eagle Eye has often split an arrow already in the bullseye in two with his superior marksmanship. We are often left in awe. I imagine it's similar with Kobe fans who just become speechless when Kobe shoots the ball for the win. And by that I mean I'm sure it's hard for you to speak with Kobe's balls on your chin.

Best post ever

[lakaluva's camel]

Imagine the hate they'll have when Kobe tops MJ with 7

Did you still want that ride?

[Ace]

6 is practically wrapped up.

Assuming they lockout part of the season people can forget about the Lakers ing up the 4peat. Give the Laker vets that much rest and it just becomes unfair.

You might as well take one of these because its inevitable that Heat are going to curbstomp the Lakers.

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[Basketball Jones]

Ramsay knows his basketball like no other.