see... I Told You So.

[Wild Cobra]

Leave it to Boutons to use projected employment as fact.

[MannyIsGod]

Leave it to Boutons to use projected employment as fact.

Democrats delay vote on extending Bush tax cuts

They are not going to let this empty promise occur.

What about using projections as fact?

[BlairForceDejuan]

Government has proven they are not capable of spending tax money efficiently or effectively. On top of that, they are spending billions outside of our country on non-Americans. They do not deserve to steal more money from other peoples hard work.

Let my generation opt out of Social Security.

[Wild Cobra]

What about using projections as fact?

Mine is clearly opinion. Not my fault if you believe otherwise.

[boutons_deux]

Leave it to Boutons to use projected employment as fact.

Take a Boutons' devastating -slap like a good little , just for once.

[Nbadan]

Government has proven they are not capable of spending tax money efficiently or effectively. On top of that, they are spending billions outside of our country on non-Americans. They do not deserve to steal more money from other peoples hard work.

Let my generation opt out of Social Security.

Social Security has a 5-6 trillion dollar surplus dumb-ass...

[Wild Cobra]

Social Security has a 5-6 trillion dollar surplus dumb-ass...

Not for long, especially with subsidies like "making work pay."

[xellos88330]

Dems are on the same side of that bet - FTW, also.

Dems won't allow reduction in govt. (and honestly don't ever propose enough taxes to significantly reduce the debt)

Republicans won't allow tax increases (and honestly don't ever do much to reduce govt. enough to significantly reduce the debt)

And if EITHER side proposes enough of either reduction in spending, or increases in taxes, they are vilified mercilessly, called "radical", etc.....

Ultimately, it IS the American people who are to blame, Every two, four, and six years we are offered an opportunity to do something about it; but the best we come up with trying what didn't work before, again. We tribe up; blame the other side for ALL the problems - take glee when their "solutions" don't work (admit it, you all do it - just peruse this forum for 10 seconds) - enough of the maleable in the middle of the voter's spectrum buy into the rhetoric of the party out of power - and BAM, congress/the president's party changes; but NOTHING ELSE DOES!!!

It is not Republicans, or Democrats.

The enemy is US.

Someone get this man a time machine and have him write the cons ution!

Well said sir!

[Nbadan]

Not for long, especially with subsidies like "making work pay."

How is this going to reduce the net amount in the SS trust fund?

[Nbadan]

Someone get this man a time machine and have him write the cons ution!

Well said sir!

Dems won't allow a reduce in government?

Where were you during the Clinton Administration?

[Wild Cobra]

How is this going to reduce the net amount in the SS trust fund?

Yes, you are correct. It's a small amount. Still, it eliminates the revenue to the SS money by $400 per worker making over $6,500 annually. It adds up.

[Nbadan]

There is nothing wrong with the current formula for SS contributions except that they should raise the cap to all income....

[Wild Cobra]

There is nothing wrong with the current formula for SS contributions except that they should raise the cap to all income....

Considering it's an insurance rather than a tax, I disagree. Now if we do as i would like and call it a social tax, then yes. I agree. Then we increase or decrease the social tax as needed and leave income tax rates alone.

[boutons_deux]

SocSec isn't an insurance nor a tax. It's are required RETIREMENT savings plan.

[Wild Cobra]

SocSec isn't an insurance nor a tax. It's are required RETIREMENT savings plan.

And there is a maximum amount one can collect, so it's only fair there should be a maximum that one should pay, or do you believe in Marxism?

[boutons_deux]

Weak-assed Dems aren't the only ones. How about the next House Speaker, in full-non-disclosure/we're=lying-to-you mode

" WALLACE: Congressman Boehner, as Willie Sutton said about banks, en lements are where the money is. More than 40% of the budget. Yet, I’ve looked through this pledge and there is not one single proposal to cut social security, medicare, medicaid.

BOEHNER: Chris, we make it clear in there that we’re going to lay out a plan to work toward a balanced budget and deal with the en lement crisis. Chris, it’s time for us as americans to have an adult conversation with each other about the serious challenges our country faces. And we can’t have that serious conversation until we lay out the size of the problem. Once Americans understand how big the problem is, then we can begin to talk about potential solutions. [...]

WALLACE: Forgive me, sir, isn’t the right time to have the adult conversation now before the election when you have this do ent? Why not make a single proposal to cut social security, medicare and medicaid?

BOEHNER: Chris, this is what happens here in washington. When you start down that path, you just invite all kind of problems. I know. I’ve been there. I think we need to do this in a more systemic way and have this conversation first. Let’s not get to the potential solutions. Let’s make sure americans understand how big the problem is. Then we can talk about possible solutions and then work ourselves into those solutions that are doable. "

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/26/...m-not-solution

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"en lement crisis": how to cut the social safety net, let AMERICANS die in the streets, while distributing low-taxed income to the top 2%, and keep enriching the bloated, corrupt MIC.