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    A non-binding resolution.....what idiots...


    AUSTIN, Texas — The Texas State Board of Education adopted a resolution Friday that seeks to curtail references to Islam in Texas textbooks, as social conservative board members warned of what they describe as a creeping Middle Eastern influence in the nation's publishing industry.

    The board approved the one-page nonbinding resolution, which urges textbook publishers to limit what they print about Islam in world history books, by a 7-5 vote.

    Critics say it's another example of the ideological board trying to politicize public education in the Lone Star State. Kathy Miller, president of the Texas Freedom Network, which advocates for religious freedom, questioned why the resolution came at a time when "anti-Muslim rhetoric in this country has reached fever pitch."

    "It's hard not to conclude that the misleading claims in this resolution are either based on ignorance of what's in the textbooks or, on the other hand, are an example of fear-mongering and playing politics," Miller said.

    Future boards that will choose the state's next generation of social studies texts will not be bound by the resolution.

    "This is an expression of the board's opinion, so it does not have an effect on any particular textbook," said David Anderson, the general counsel for the Texas Education Agency, when asked by a board member what legal weight the resolution would carry.

    "So this is a cosmetic exercise?" asked board member Mavis Knight, a Democrat from Dallas.

    The resolution cites world history books no longer used in Texas schools that it says devoted more lines of text to Islamic beliefs and practices than Christian ones. Chairwoman Gail Lowe said the resolution cites old books because board rules prohibit them from discussing current books more than 90 days after their adoption.

    "I believe that it's happening in the current (social studies books) even though we can't cover that in the resolution," said board member Terri Leo, a Republican from Spring. The resolution sends a "clear message to publishers that it should not happen in the future."

    The resolution also claims "more such discriminatory treatment of religion may occur as Middle Easterners buy into the U.S. public school textbook oligopoly, as they are doing now."

    Two Republicans broke from their party to vote with the Democrats. Two Democrats – Mary Helen Berlanga of Corpus Christi and Rene Nunez of El Paso – were absent for the vote. The initial vote on the resolution was 7-6, but the board later reconsidered the measure. The second vote was 7-5 after a Democratic board member left the meeting.

    Social conservatives control the 15-member board for now, although the landscape is set to change after one member of the bloc lost his primary election bid and another chose not to seek re-election. The board in recent years has become a battleground for social conservatives and liberal watchdogs, each accusing the other of imposing ideological agendas into what about 4.8 million public school students learn in Texas classrooms.
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    The islamophobia is non-binding. That's a mercy.

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    Do these racist bullying "Christian Taliban" theocratic supremacist assholes show evidence from textbooks that are pro-Islam/anti-Christian?

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    Do these racist bullying "Christian Taliban" theocratic supremacist assholes show evidence from textbooks that are pro-Islam/anti-Christian?

    Islam is not a race.

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    damn bleeding hearts dont seem to get it

    You are using your hippie ideas to bunch Islam in with Christianity, etc and all other peaceful religions

    Islam does not work that way. The Quran COMMANDS all muslims to behave in a certain way, and to treat anyone else that is not a muslim as an infidel who must either die or be converted. PERIOD

    yes, there are "peaceful muslims" but that's only because they are peaceful PEOPLE who don't want to follow their religion faithfully due to their nature.

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    Who said Islam was a race?

    "Quran COMMANDS all muslims to behave in a certain way"

    The Bible, having excluded non-Christians from heaven (just like the Koran condemns infidels), commands Christians to he 10%. SUCKERS!

    And if "Christians" really live by the OT (which they seem to love and follow much more closely than the NT), I bet you wouldn't like it much. Well, actually, you probably would.

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    damn bleeding hearts dont seem to get it

    You are using your hippie ideas to bunch Islam in with Christianity, etc and all other peaceful religions

    Islam does not work that way. The Quran COMMANDS all muslims to behave in a certain way, and to treat anyone else that is not a muslim as an infidel who must either die or be converted. PERIOD

    yes, there are "peaceful muslims" but that's only because they are peaceful PEOPLE who don't want to follow their religion faithfully due to their nature.
    I don't think that's correct. I took a World Religions class in college and seem to recall that the Quran recognizes Jews and Christians as "People of the Scripture" and gives them special reverence. You have to remember that Muslims believe that they worship the God of Abraham, just as Christians and Jews do. A tenet of Islam is that their scriptures are merely a completion of the Judeo-Christian Scriptures.

    For example -

    And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him do we submit. [Qur'an 29:46]
    The Jews say: "The Christians have nothing to stand upon"; and the Christians say: "The Jews have nothing to stand upon." Yet they both have something to stand upon, they both recite the Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but Allah will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment. (Qur'an 2:113)
    Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of God during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin Al-Ma'rûf and forbid Al-Munkar ; and they hasten in (all) good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for God knows well those who are Al-Muttaqûn .(3:113-115)
    That seems to be a little different (in fact, it's the complete ing opposite) from commanding Muslims to kill Christians and Jews.
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    Nuanced...

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    That seems to be a little different (in fact, it's the complete ing opposite) from commanding Muslims to kill Christians and Jews.
    You just don't get it

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    A lot of what people don't like about "Islam" is detritus left over and mixed in from the Bedouin culture, which FAR pre-dates Islam. If you read the Quran, it's nothing like what a lot of the people in the Middle East practice as Islam.

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    Cutting off noses (Yoni's favorite Muslim practice), labia, clits, sewing up vaginas, honor killings, acid baths, etc are in the Koran?

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    Surah 5 : 51 “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them.”



    "For the unbelievers are to you open enemies" (Surah 4:101)


    "Seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks." (Surah 4:89)


    how about TAQIYA?

    Taqiya is a command to muslims that allows them to LIE to infidels in order to defeat them. They can say whatever you want if gives them an advantage to further their HOLY WAR (JIHAD). This means some "peacemaker" muslims like the one at Ground Zero can be flat out ing liars, who say one thing to the West, and another thing to the Muslims.

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    here are some little samples of Muhammad :

    Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.



    Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.

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    lol@ the hippies who really don't understand how the world works.

    Islam is a religion, so by default it must be a peaceful religion like all the others!!!!!111!!! LETS HOLD HANDS AND STOP FIGHTING!!111one!

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    I like how in the Koran, it starts off all cool and the people of the scripture are buddies, but as he gets older and starts fighting...he writes new portions that reverse what he said about being cool with everyone. Yep, that's how it works in the Koran. Piss off Muhammad and he writes some ed up about you for his followers to carry out...God Bless Texas!

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    "a peaceful religion like all others"



    If you're looking for violence in religious texts, stupid arcane laws, and contradictions, one need look no further than the Bible itself.

    Besides, we can't eradicate Islam, we can't outlaw it, and it makes no sense to pretend it doesn't exist, so all this hysteria is really pointless.

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    lol@ the hippies who really don't understand how the world works.

    Islam is a religion, so by default it must be a peaceful religion like all the others!!!!!111!!! LETS HOLD HANDS AND STOP FIGHTING!!111one!
    Do all Muslims want to kill all Christians and Jews?

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    Lol at those arm chair quoran experts

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    I don't think they should take out references to Islam in history books. How are they going to teach kids about 9/11?

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    I guess if Jefferson is not part of US history then Islamic people must not be part of World History.

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    Just don't call them Islamophobic or it'll REALLY piss them off.

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    3 books no longer in circulation have more lines about Islam!!! The terrorists are winning!!

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    Do all Muslims want to kill all Christians and Jews?
    If they were good Muslims, they would. Just like good Christians should kill non-believers, too.

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    here are some little samples of Muhammad :

    Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.



    Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.
    Tribal sagas and creeds are fierce, but there's a little bit of trickeration too. Ever read the Old testament?

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    "Golden calf" ring a bell?

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