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    Fuck these finals picc84's Avatar
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    Please do not derail the thread by comparing Gasol among some of the All Time greats. To bring things up to speed, I was merely showing Pau's value in his team. Almost any other Laker (Kobe included, with all due respect to the leader of the team). It is not to say, Gasol is a better player than Kobe, but its a testament to how versatile and valuable Pau has been for the Lakers even moreso than the 2x Finals MVP.


    Gasol is their best rebounder, best defender, most efficient scorer and probably the smartest player on board. Now, can Pau Gasol lead the Lakers to a championship as the first option? Of course not but pair him with say Wade, Lebron or Pierce, Iwith the same group and they absolutley bring a le to LA. Now, can Kobe and either of Gasol's contemporaries also lead the Lakers to a championship? Without using any sort of bias here, I honestly don't believe so.


    Kobe is a HOF, an all time great and one of the games best. I would even say he would probably rank behind Magic Johnson when all is said and done as LA's best. But there's something really wrong with how the media or fans are valuing Kobe at this point.


    The thread question is disingenuous though. Because it'd be more accurate to ask if Gasol can win with another SG other than Kobe, as Pau was the driving force behind the lakers championships.

    And the answer, as you know, is yes. If Pau can win a le with his 2nd best player shooting 6-24, the question really becomes who couldn't he win with? I don't think you have to dip into the reservoir of great players like Lebron and Pierce to make that point.

    All Gasol needs is a guy to make some buckets, feed off the defensive attention and double teams he gets, and hold the fort when he goes out for a breather. It doesn't take being Kobe Bryant to shoot 6-24 from the field. Pau can handle that kind of production from a lot of players. And he proved it in the finals.

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    ^It don't hurt being in Los Angeles for 4 of every 7 games because Bryant made it certain when he took those 7 last second wins to heart.

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    The thread question is disingenuous though. Because it'd be more accurate to ask if Gasol can win with another SG other than Kobe, as Pau was the driving force behind the lakers championships.

    And the answer, as you know, is yes. If Pau can win a le with his 2nd best player shooting 6-24, the question really becomes who couldn't he win with? I don't think you have to dip into the reservoir of great players like Lebron and Pierce to make that point.

    All Gasol needs is a guy to make some buckets, feed off the defensive attention and double teams he gets, and hold the fort when he goes out for a breather. It doesn't take being Kobe Bryant to shoot 6-24 from the field. Pau can handle that kind of production from a lot of players. And he proved it in the finals.

    Aye, we can agree on this post. But will you at least agree with me as well in saying Gasol is much more valuable than Kobe given the cir stances provided above?

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    Son...what the heck do you think i've been talking about in my last 3 posts? The wall street crash of '29?

    Let me find out i've just been over here whistlin dixie.

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    Your inexperience with women is glaring. I'm not quite sure, were you laughing at yourself in this post?
    Your application is being processed.

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    LOL at this troll tread.

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    With Duncan the last two seasons instead of Gasol, the Lakers still win. With Dirk instead of Gasol, I think it might be more difficult but I think they'd still have a good chance at winning both. Bynum would be more valuable defending Orlando and Dwight Howard in 2009. I think Dirk actually would play better than Pau against Boston and especially KG. Chris Bosh instead of Gasol would be even tougher. I actually think they'd still be ok against Denver and Orlando in 2009 but I think Bosh would struggle against Boston. Amare instead of Gasol would be much more difficult for the Lakers. They'd still contend but I wouldn't bet money that they win either le.

  9. #34
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    Duncan is inert.

    That's it, and that's all.

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    An interesting tidbit..

    Kobe won back 2 back without Shaq and 3 les in all without Gasol...lol


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    Testify, Brother Kool, testify!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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