Thomas Gardner invited to training camp

[MaNu4Tres]

There will be 13-18 minutes a night available at the small forward position if RJ can stay healthy.

That being said, do you honestly believe a player like Steve Novak or Bobby Simmons is worthy of those minutes ahead of Manu?

Hill will get respectable minutes at the 2 spot and I wouldn't be surprised if Temple got a few as well, which means Manu will have to get minutes at the 3 spot ( which is fine; both wing spots have always been interchangeable in the Spurs system ever since Pop has been in charge). Yes it would be great if Spurs had more length on the bench at the wing spots, but not if it meant excusing overall ability just for the sake of having more size at the spot.

I'm sure the Spurs have done their due diligence on trying to find a worthy candidate to bring in at the 3 with size ( having tried out Darius Miles, Trey Gilder, Jawad Williams; to name a few)...So to discredit the FO on not taking issue on this wish is foolish.

Like I've said many times before, the Spurs put more stock on the overall quality of a player. They won't sign an inferior talent just because of a players size or because of one skill-set ( Gilder, Miles; big 3's or just straight 3 point ability Novak, Kurz).

[TD 21]

There were no San Antonio Spurs fifty years ago.

I never said there was. You have a serious problem/obsession when it comes to making things up.

Hey, you got one right.

That's why there are no "apparently better than Bobby Simmons backup SF free agent" signings.

You're learning. Stick around, I'll teach you more.

They've told us one thing, then did another, when it comes to competing for a championship.

It's true that more and more teams are giving D-Leaguers a chance to make their roster, but the vast majority aren't being handed virtually uncontested spots and not just spots, active roster spots and in the case of one, potentially a rotation spot. And you certainly don't see any contender doing that.

We were told?

Link.

Pop said it himself after Jefferson was acquired last off season and it's been repeated numerous times since then, most recently by Aldridge early last summer.

Money.

You're welcome.

The Celtics and Lakers had no more money to spend than the Spurs, yet they were able to fill their holes and upgrade...and they were both already better than the Spurs to begin with.

Stop being a front office apologist.

Wait, you are now saying there are other ways to complete a roster than signing ty players?

Wow.

You really are learning.

Stick around.

I never said anything to the contrary. I just gave you an example, given the situation they're in, of a player they could have brought in to at least push Gee. And you responded by getting completely carried away with it.

There will be 13-18 minutes a night available at the small forward position if RJ can stay healthy.

That being said, do you honestly believe a player like Steve Novak or Bobby Simmons is worthy of those minutes ahead of Manu?

Hill will get respectable minutes at the 2 spot and I wouldn't be surprised if Temple got a few as well, which means Manu will have to get minutes at the 3 spot ( which is fine; both wing spots have always been interchangeable in the Spurs system ever since Pop has been in charge). Yes it would be great if Spurs had more length on the bench at the wing spots, but not if it meant excusing overall ability just for the sake of having more size at the spot.

I'm sure the Spurs have done their due diligence on trying to find a worthy candidate to bring in at the 3 with size ( having tried out Darius Miles, Trey Gilder, Jawad Williams; to name a few)...So to discredit the FO on not taking issue on this wish is foolish.

Like I've said many times before, the Spurs put more stock on the overall quality of a player. They won't sign an inferior talent just because of a players size or because of one skill-set ( Gilder, Miles; big 3's or just straight 3 point ability Novak, Kurz).

Simmons might be, but I never said I wanted either (for the umpteenth time, they were just examples of invites who would have made more sense than the types we've seen so far).

I'll give you an example. The Hornets signed Pargo yesterday, why? They had Green and Shakur to backup Paul and Pargo is nothing more than a mediocre veteran. This is why they did it: Because Green is really a two and Shakur hasn't proven that he's an NBA player yet. So instead of handing him a spot, they're going to make him earn it.

Why couldn't the Spurs have done this with Gee?

I realize this has become long and drawn out, but if you're going to take me to task for something, then get what I said right. I have no problem with you or anyone doing the former, so long as you do the latter.

It's fine at times, when the match-ups allow for it. But Ginobili shouldn't be consistently relied upon to play SF. I agree with not excusing overall ability, but that's just it. How do you know Temple, Neal, Gee and even Anderson, can do the job? If their goal is to win a championship, they shouldn't just be guessing or hoping with that many players. It's one thing to do with with spots 14 and 15, but we're not talking about those spots.

I don't care if they did their "due diligence" (that should go without saying, you shouldn't be patting them on the back for it), that's not good enough. This is a results oriented business and you don't get points for trying. I don't think the type of player they need, it was unreasonable to expect them to acquire.

What are you talking about? They've done this consistently over the years, particularly with shooters. Neal is the latest example of that.

[TD 21]

What did I tell you?

This made too much sense to not happen.

[ChumpDumper]

What did I tell you?

This made too much sense to not happen.

You said it wouldn't happen.

Well, media day is Monday. Which means they have roughly two days to bring in the type of player they've so far neglected to bring in throughout an off season that's spanned months. At this point, I think it's safe to say, they're not going that route.

Bolding yours.

[TD 21]

You said it wouldn't happen.Bolding yours.

No question, I didn't. But I maintained from the beginning that it made sense.

[timtonymanu]

Gardner has been waived according to spurs.com.

[ajballer4]

Gardner has been waived according to spurs.com.

That was quick

[Spurs Brazil]

Alex Kennedy: Thomas Gardner will stay in the Spurs' backyard after being cut. He'll spend next season with the Austin Toros and hope for a call-up