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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    Given that the century is all of 10 years old, that's not saying a whole lot, is it?

    Or do you propose that children should only learn about history if it happened in the past 50 years or so?
    Any answer DarrinS?

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    By DarrinS logic, any music majors should extensively study Britney Spears, as she was a wildly popular musician throughout this century. No need to study Muddy Waters, Beatles or Elvis; they aren't contemporary to today's music scene.

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    What other ones are there that AREN'T related to terrorism?
    huh?

    What other Islamic events AREN'T related to terrorism?

    huh?

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    Besides all of them? None of them, I guess.

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    I find the passages before that quote to be quite relevant.



    I think most religious conservatives just skip by these passages.



    Don't see many conservatives practicing that one either.
    Well, in one passage the Bible tells Christians not to harm others and in another it tells Christians (and I guess Jews) to kill non-believers.

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    huh?

    What other Islamic events AREN'T related to terrorism?

    huh?


    No examples?

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    Any answer DarrinS?
    Still waiting.

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    Well, in one passage the Bible tells Christians not to harm others and in another it tells Christians (and I guess Jews) to kill non-believers.
    The Bible does like to cover its ass. As do people who quote the OT to contravene the NT's words, and vice versa.

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    Darrin thinks we have to provide him examples for something so blatantly obvious in order to prove not all events related to Islam involve terrorism and doesn't see how this inherently proves his bias.

    Seeking proof that the sky is blue indicates a bias even if Darrin is once again too stupid to realize it.

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    For s and giggles, perhaps the Hajj can be considered an important event in the grand scheme of the world in the eyes of Darrin.

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    Praying in the direction of Mecca daily is an Islamic event. Maybe it should be curtailed out of consideration for 9/11 survivors.

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    Praying in the direction of Mecca daily is an Islamic event. Maybe it should be curtailed out of consideration for 9/11 survivors.
    if it's within 2 blocks of Ground Zero, it absolutely should.

    praying in the direction of pastor John Hagee might be ok.

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    Darrin thinks we have to provide him examples for something so blatantly obvious in order to prove not all events related to Islam involve terrorism and doesn't see how this inherently proves his bias.

    Seeking proof that the sky is blue indicates a bias even if Darrin is once again too stupid to realize it.


    I was thinking about things like first flight by the Wright brothers, Ford's Model-T, first radio broadcast, invention of television, landing on the moon, personal computer, internet, medical breakthoughs, etc. etc.

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    I was thinking about things like first flight by the Wright brothers, Ford's Model-T, first radio broadcast, invention of television, landing on the moon, personal computer, internet, medical breakthoughs, etc. etc.
    I guess you never heard of the Islamic Golden Age. Plenty of events of the type you describe there for those caring to look. I have to conclude that for Islamophobes, ignorance is bliss.

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    I guess you never heard of the Islamic Golden Age. Plenty of events of the type you describe there for those caring to look. I have to conclude that for Islamophobes, ignorance is bliss.
    That's why I said the last 100 years.

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    That's why I said the last 100 years.
    Then you cite 'first flight by the Wright brothers' as an example, which was over 100 years ago... If you're going to cherry pick, at least do it right...

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    Then you cite 'first flight by the Wright brothers' as an example, which was over 100 years ago... If you're going to cherry pick, at least do it right...

    Talk about cherry picking. The Wright brothers' flight was 107 years ago, but it wasn't the mid 13th century.

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    Unfortunately for you Darrin, the class is called "Social Studies" and not "Recent history" or "Current Events." The "Islamic Golden Age" is a part of social studies as is 9/11. How come there isn't more of a mention of the Inquisition in school? I think the Salem witch trials did get a paragraph, maybe the part about Martin Luther being bat crazy, or more recently the fact that the KKK used religion to justify their actions, that people are getting killed and discriminated against RIGHT NOW because of their sexual preference in the name of the Christians' preferred book . . . .

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    Talk about cherry picking. The Wright brothers' flight was 107 years ago, but it wasn't the mid 13th century.
    You brought it up, not me. The least you could do is fact check your own claims.

    Ultimately, we've built upon that Golden Era legacy, as much as we've built upon Wright's brothers discovery. That you don't want to acknowledge it by putting some kind of arbitrary metric tells me much more about you than what it tells me about them.

    But, if you're really looking for current events, you could look up Orhan Pamuk. A Muslim who won the Nobel Prize for literature in '06. I'm sure there's more out there, but I'm not going to do your homework for you.

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    Darrin just doesn't get the fact that his assumption is a textbook case of bias.

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    That's why I said the last 100 years.
    You read it here folks, DarrinS thinks history books shouldn't bother to go back more than 100 years.

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    I was thinking about things like first flight by the Wright brothers, Ford's Model-T, first radio broadcast, invention of television, landing on the moon, personal computer, internet, medical breakthoughs, etc. etc.
    Ok. So you want to see where a major religion has furthered the boundaries of technology. Correct?


    Please tell me that's not what you're asking.

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    Ok. So you want to see where a major religion has furthered the boundaries of technology. Correct?


    Please tell me that's not what you're asking.

    No, I'm saying that in a history of the 20th century, any mention of Islam would almost certainly be related to a terrorist event.

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    No, I'm saying that in a history of the 20th century, any mention of Islam would almost certainly be related to a terrorist event.
    Depends upon where you choose to gather your "mentions" now, doesn't it? I suspect if you had the balls to endure another viewpoint, then you would likely find quite a bit of info outside of the loving embrace of Fox News or Western journalism in whole.

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    No, I'm saying that in a history of the 20th century, any mention of Islam would almost certainly be related to a terrorist event.
    Really?

    So, in your mind, the ONLY HISTORICALLY RELEVANT EVENTS RELATED TO ISLAM in the years 1901-2000 were terrorism-related?

    Are you sure you really want to say that?

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