Tony Parker wants to stay with Spurs

[slick'81]

spurs FO should let the market dictate his worth, is there any team out there with max money available to throw around next season summer?

we could get him back at a bargain

thats what we thought about rj

[GSH]

This is silly. Your argument that because the company pays you millions, they basically own you. And that's simply incorrect on many levels.

This whole NT thing is really not that complicated. The NBA actually benefits from players playing these tournaments

Of course the company doesn't own you. Nobody would agree to that, and nobody would want that for anyone else. If you're trying to equate employer expectations to slavery, you're way the off base - for even suggesting it. But when an employee does something that has a negative impact on the employer, the employer isn't prevented from objecting to it. That's not ownership, or anything like it.

How about teachers that put lewd pictures of themselves on their Facebook accounts? (It happens all the time.) They get fired. Football teams don't want their players getting into pickup games in the offseason. Or riding a motorcycle without a helmet. Or snowboarding. The player may have the right to do any of those things, but most have enough respect for the team (and their teammates) not to.

As for your other point? I really don't give a if the NBA benefits from Manu playing in a summer tournament, if he comes back wrecked for the next season. I'm a Spurs fan. Just like I don't give a if Sasha Vujacic wants to play summer ball every single season - I hate the ing Lakers. If Manu and Tony had come back healthy and rested every season, you would never have heard a peep out of me, or anyone else.

You know... Tony talks about how the reporters won't listen to him, and print whatever they want to. Well why not? It doesn't violate any contract with the NBA, or with the players. The players don't own the reporters. They have a right to do any damned thing they want to. And that's all that matters... right? Maybe some of us feel like there are some things you shouldn't have to be told.

The two sides in this argument are never going to come together. The funny part is, it's the American fans that seem more open minded. I can understand why Argentine or French fans want to see Manu or Tony play for their NT's. And I understand and respect the fact that those guys want to compete. And I think that most American fans feel the same way. But the international fans? Don't epxect them to see more than one side of the argument. And apparently the international players only consider what their fans back home think.

[GSH]

You need to look up the definition of ethnocentric because it refers to a specific culture as much as it refers to ethnicity. It depends on the reference.

No... you need to look up the word. It means to be centered on a specific ethnic group or race. Period. Your sociology professor used it, and you didn't quite understand that it has a specific meaning. Now YOU look up the words supercilious and sop ric. As in, "You sop ric, supercilious prick." See how that works? When you use the right words, they stick better.

Edit: Oh, and it has nothing to do with feeling superior, you -lick. It has to do with being Spurs fans. Don't try to make everything about geopolitics and race relations. You don't know about me, my race, or my world view. All I've said is that I don't like it when Manu is hurt, and continues to play for his NT. When he's hurt during the NBA season, Pop makes him sit down and rest. What about that can't you understand?

... probably all of it.

[will_spurs]

spurs FO should let the market dictate his worth, is there any team out there with max money available to throw around next season summer?

we could get him back at a bargain

I think you're confusing TP and RJ.

There's no way the Spurs get TP back "at a bargain" if they let him walk. My bet is the same as ever: extension signed before the start of the playoffs, 5 years, around $14-15 million per year.

[cantthinkofanything]

I think you're confusing TP and RJ.

There's no way the Spurs get TP back "at a bargain" if they let him walk. My bet is the same as ever: extension signed before the start of the playoffs, 5 years, around $14-15 million per year.

This would be more damaging than the RJ resign. I don't see how anyone can say Parker won't lose quickness (his only realy advantage) over the next couple of years.

I've changed my mind about trading him right now though. The best case scenario in my mind is he has a great start to the season, the Spurs sign him to an extension. Parker continues to play at an all star level for the rest of the year. Then we trade him after the season.

[gilmor]

This would be more damaging than the RJ resign. I don't see how anyone can say Parker won't lose quickness (his only realy advantage) over the next couple of years.

I've changed my mind about trading him right now though. The best case scenario in my mind is he has a great start to the season, the Spurs sign him to an extension. Parker continues to play at an all star level for the rest of the year. Then we trade him after the season.

Next year it doesn't matter any more. Tim would have retired..

[Pauleta14]

I think you're confusing TP and RJ.

There's no way the Spurs get TP back "at a bargain" if they let him walk. My bet is the same as ever: extension signed before the start of the playoffs, 5 years, around $14-15 million per year.

If Tony regain his 08-09 form, this is a bargain, if he doesn't, he's worth less than Manu (13M/year)...

[Pauleta14]

This would be more damaging than the RJ resign. I don't see how anyone can say Parker won't lose quickness (his only realy advantage) over the next couple of years.

I've changed my mind about trading him right now though. The best case scenario in my mind is he has a great start to the season, the Spurs sign him to an extension. Parker continues to play at an all star level for the rest of the year. Then we trade him after the season.

You know how NBA works, there's always a way to trade him...
He is not Eddy Curry...

[Brazil]

Manu Ginobili turned to walk away just as Tony Parker approached the throng of microphones and notepads gathered at Media Day, but offered some advice before leaving.

"Just tell them," Ginobili said, "that you never want to leave Manu and that will be the end of it."

we are all lucky to root for the San Antonio Spurs ! I mean this team has great players, good people and they are funny. They obviously enjoy playing together and this is the most important for me. Sometimes we are so spoiled, let's celebrate at least one more year following the magic big 3 !!

[ElNono]

Of course the company doesn't own you. Nobody would agree to that, and nobody would want that for anyone else. If you're trying to equate employer expectations to slavery, you're way the off base - for even suggesting it.

I'm not trying to equate anything. I'm merely stating that the amount of money you get paid is irrelevant as far as complying with the employment contract. The argument was that because 'they get paid millions' they should do or not do stuff outside of what's stipulated in their contracts. It's baloney.

How about teachers that put lewd pictures of themselves on their Facebook accounts? (It happens all the time.) They get fired. Football teams don't want their players getting into pickup games in the offseason. Or riding a motorcycle without a helmet. Or snowboarding. The player may have the right to do any of those things, but most have enough respect for the team (and their teammates) not to.

If the player did comply with his contract, firing him might be a pretty expensive option for the team. Especially in fully guaranteed contracts. Buying him out, trading him or not extending his contract when it's up are all probably better options, and are all available to owners that have a problem with this activity.

As far as dangerous activities, many contracts include clauses (as permitted) that void contracts or issue fines in case such a thing is proven to have occurred (cases like Radmanovic or Monta Ellis come to mind).

If playing for the NT doesn't go against anything in the contract or any other agreement, then there's no reason for the player not to play if he wants to. Furthermore, your entire 'respect' thing is pretty debatable. Does his NT teammates don't deserve respect too?

As far as respect to the team, well, it's silly. It's a business. The team will have no problems letting you go if it makes them more money. Loyalty is very low in the list of priorities of any sane business. Sure, there are exceptions to the rule, but on a general basis, money is king.

As for your other point? I really don't give a if the NBA benefits from Manu playing in a summer tournament, if he comes back wrecked for the next season. I'm a Spurs fan. Just like I don't give a if Sasha Vujacic wants to play summer ball every single season - I hate the ing Lakers. If Manu and Tony had come back healthy and rested every season, you would never have heard a peep out of me, or anyone else.

The NBA doesn't give a what you or I think. For them, it's an opportunity to fish in a bigger pond. Ultimately, they can get more money out of it, and being that it's a business, they have a fiduciary duty to do that.

[Fabbs]

LeBron "I want to stay with the Cavs"
Bosh "I want to stay with the Raptors'
Kobme pre Collusion 2007 "I'll play anywhere but here including Jupiter"

Look of course TP is going to say that, and i'm not insinuating he or any of the other were not sincere. Well except Kobme, sincerity is just not in his fabric.

So lets see what happens the 1st 1/3rd of the season and by that time the plot will be much thicker. Hopefully Bumford and Popped will reverse their trend of doing what is the absolute worst for the Spurs 2007 -on and make the right decision with Parker.

[eric365]

I don't understand TP's logic. He says :
- This is the last year we have a chance with this core
- I want to win more le
- I want to stay a spur after this year

Only way it is logic is if he wait to see if Hill, Blair, Splitter or a FO's move take the spurs back as a contender

If there is no progress, he moves to another team.

[HankChinaski]

Man, this topic never gets old with the majority here. I'm just glad there's some preseason basketball starting up in a week and some change. Now that NBA season is slowly coming upon us, I can make some time in here that doesn't involve ridiculous trade rumors or the big Tony is leaving or staying.

I'll start thinking about that after the trade deadline and more importantly how he looks coming out the first few months of the start of the season.

[SenorSpur]

I get the sense that, so long as he's truly committed to staying (and, if we're to take him at his word, he is) and he looks closer to how he did two seasons ago as opposed to last season, that they'll find a way to make it work financially and I believe they've conveyed that to him, along with the fact that, as Pop said, he'll be the starter. It makes sense, so as to hopefully put his mind at ease, at least somewhat.

Same here. This is great news. Like others, in listening to the alleged comments that transpired back and forth over the summer, I was practically convinced that TP was about as good as gone. Now, I'd be surprised if he left. I definitely think the chances look good that he stays a Spur. He wants it. Pop and RC both want it. I credit Pop for doing what good leaders do - clearing the air and making sure there was clear communication between the two of them. Not allowing any misunderstandings to fester.

I'm certainly not of the belief that having TP around will hinder the development of George Hill. They've shown they can play together, so there should be no issues. In fact, TP's presence will only benefit Hill.

As for his participation on the French NT, I'd rather he limit his participation to every other year. Of course, that's my proposed solution for all players. Think how much of Yao's career would've been spared had he done the same. However if TP wants to continue his annual participation, the Spurs are powerless to stop him - as has the case with Manu. No NBA team can outright prohibit any player from the opportunity to play for their country. I'm not crazy about the idea, but it is their right. Just hope TP is smart about it.

I'm looking forward to seeing TP in a Spurs uniform for years to come.

[duncan228]

Tony Parker on the Spurs: It's now or never
By Kurt Helin

Tony Parker is in the last year of his contract. He may come back to the Spurs, he may move on, it's going to be about money and years and discussions that will not seriously take place until next summer.

Before then, Parker wants one more ring. He told KTKR in San Antonio that the Spurs can do it -- but they have to do it now. This year.

It's a long season and Timmy's [Duncan] like 34, going to be 35. That's why I felt like this is our last chance to win a championship. When Timmy's gone, then it's going to be really tough...

"I think we're more hungry. And I think everybody's rested. I didn't play with the national team. Manu didn't play, [Tim Duncan] didn't play. And I think we have a better bench and I think our young guys, they're pretty good. Tiago Splitter is ready to play. He won everything in Europe and he's coming here a little bit like Manu when he first came, with all the experience. I like the balance of our team. I like our chances, but 10 other teams say the same thing."

The Spurs are going to be good, probably better than last year. But there is Dallas and Houston and Portland and Oklahoma City all right there, too. And ever one of them is still chasing the Lakers.

That's a tough road for the Spurs, no matter how hungry and rested they are.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I don't understand TP's logic. He says :
- This is the last year we have a chance with this core
- I want to win more le
- I want to stay a spur after this year

Only way it is logic is if he wait to see if Hill, Blair, Splitter or a FO's move take the spurs back as a contender

If there is no progress, he moves to another team.

/thread

[duncan228]

Keeping Tony Parker not a question, even if his future is
by Jesse Blanchard
48 Minutes of

The San Antonio Spurs kicked off training camp 2010 in the same fashion as last season–with much optimism, a typical Gregg Popovich dress-down of the media, and endless inquiries concerning the future of their All-Star backcourt.

Never one to tip his hand too much, or engage in needless speculation, San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich was willing to divulge two facts with absolute certainty: Tony Parker, barring a repeat of last season’s injuries, will be the starting point guard. And more importantly, he will, as always, be a professional regardless of contract status.

“I don’t have to think about it, I know how he’s going to approach it, he’ll approach it professionally,” Popovich said. “His number one interest will be to make our team as good as he possibly can.”

Still, in the interest of framing a conversation which is certain to linger until February, I’d like to ask this hypothetical: If the Spurs knew they could not resign Tony Parker, but he had the team in contention, should they trade him?

Keep reading →

[Josepatches_]

I'm telling you guys, once Timmy and Manu are both retired, Splitter will be the perfect #2 Option to Tony Parker. That Pick-N-Roll can be deadly. And we would still have Hill, Blair and Anderson.

Think about it. Our future doesn't actually look that bad. Especially if Parker resigns.

Lottery

[Obstructed_View]

A question for the salary wonks:

Is there any financial gain for Parker to wait until after the labor issue is resolved? Even a non-max extension is likely to pay him more than a max contract afterward, right?

[Spurs Brazil]

Parker Says Extension’s Talks Will Be Long
By Dimitri - Friday, October 22, 2010 - 11:240 commentI like In an interview with the French radio RMC, Tony Parker said he feels very good physically. He also talked about the Spurs and the extension of his contract.

You have started the preseason with San Antonio. What are your first impressions?
“We have a good team and the goal is always to win the NBA le. The road is still long because, in the West, there are at least twelve teams which can play the playoffs. But our young people have really improved, like DeJuan Blair. The arrival of Tiago Splitter is also a good thing.”

You are at the end of your contract with the Spurs. Where are you with the negotiations?
“I had a discussion with the coach about my contract. This will be long like the contract Ginobili has earned the last year. The Spurs always take their time. Five years ago, I signed the last day of the negotiating period. There is nothing new about it for now. It will take time but that does not disturb me in my goals. I want to be constant as I was in 2009, finding a place at the All Star game again. Money and contracts will come naturally. My first choice is to stay in San Antonio, it is my tenth year here and it’s really rare to see a player with the same club during his entire career. I’d like to continue in San Antonio because I have lived it all here. But more negotiations will last, the more it will be hard with the pressure of the media. This is the game but that does not bother me.”

http://www.hoopsnotes.com/teams/sana...-will-be-long/

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

[will_spurs]

Lottery

Troll.

[boutons_deux]

It's a business. Tony will follow the money, leaving no $Ms on the table.

[TDMVPDPOY]

its simple, a lockout next season will hurt his earnings....

spurs FO have the ace card here where they just sit and hold out or put down a cheap offer see if he bites

[manu the best]

.. the spurs should sign him right now to avoid any distraction for the season ..