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    HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS – The gap between the NBA game and the international game of basketball continues to shrink at a rapid pace.

    FIBA ins uted NBA-style rule changes earlier this year (including the dumping of that trapezoid lane, the no-charge zone under the basket and the extended 3-point line). Now comes the NBA’s move towards closing the gap from the other side.

    The NBA D-League announced today that is has tweaked its goaltending and overtime rules, the goaltending rule will now mirror the FIBA rule that allows a player to knock the ball away when it is on the rim. Since it serves as, in the words of NBA D-League President Dan Reed, the NBA’s “Research and Development” department, it’s reasonable to assume that it’s just a matter of time before this new goaltending rule is implemented in the NBA.

    NBA Commissioner David Stern has been a vocal supporter of changing the rule for years. “As far as I’m concerned, FIBA has it right: It’s in play and the only thing the referee has to judge is, Did it hit the rim? That’s it,” Stern said told Sports Illustrated’s Ian Thomsen last year. “To me, that’s a sensible rule, and it would make foul shooting more fun too.”

    The NBA D-League tested the adidas-developed NBA Revolution 30 uniforms you will see on your favorite NBA players this season. So this wouldn’t be the first time the “R&D department” delivered the goods.

    If the new goaltending rule is a success in the D-League it could pave the way for one of the most significant rules changes the NBA has seen since the 3-point shot was adopted in the 1979-80 season.

    Seriously, can you imagine how crazy it would be to have guys like Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Gerald Wallace, Josh Smith and even an aging but cagey veteran like Kevin Garnett going after the ball while it’s on the cylinder?

    Talk about a potential game-changer for some of the league’s elite athletes and craftier players, a new goaltending rule in the NBA could revolutionize the game for some teams and players (the difference in rules go a long way in explaining why some NBA players flourish during international compe ions and other struggle, same for the international players that thrive in their game and don’t always make a smooth adjustment to the NBA).
    What a rule change. We have good NBA blockers and weak stuff like these have no room in the NBA.

    I hope this doesn't happen or it will really make the NBA game super crappy.

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    Yeah, that's bull . Basically every shot that doesn't go cleanly in will be batted away. Maybe the rule makes sense for unathletic euros, but the NBA is too long and too good and too athletic for that to make any sense at all. It would totally up the game. Very stupid of Stern to even experiment with this garbage.

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    That would be stupid

    Expect players to average 20 rbds/game and think they are the next Rodman

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    The NBA beat the Europeans soundly in their own game and now Stern tries to go down to the FIBA level? What a policy by the commish! I mean, come on, FIBA is trying to step up to NBA level!!!

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    February 1st, 1984: worst day in the history of the NBA

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    I like the rule. I don't think it would make the game crappy at all. I don't think it really hurts the game in FIBA. How many times do you see a guy shoot the ball and it hits the rim 8 times before dropping and you say something like, "that was totally lucky, they didn't deserve those points?" Well, you're eliminating those kinds of lucky shots. That sounds fair to me.

    Plus, I think that's going to make players compete harder to rebound. With that rule in place, defensive rebounding becomes even that much more important. Get some of those lazy ass big men to actually put in work.

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    Wait, this is serious?!..

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    Wait, this is serious?!..
    I posted a link brah. Links to NBA.com hangtime blog.

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    ing stupid. I like watching those crazy bounces and rolls shots take once they hit the rim, you stern

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    I like the rule. I don't think it would make the game crappy at all. I don't think it really hurts the game in FIBA. How many times do you see a guy shoot the ball and it hits the rim 8 times before dropping and you say something like, "that was totally lucky, they didn't deserve those points?" Well, you're eliminating those kinds of lucky shots. That sounds fair to me.

    Plus, I think that's going to make players compete harder to rebound. With that rule in place, defensive rebounding becomes even that much more important. Get some of those lazy ass big men to actually put in work.
    key words there...The NBA is a whole different animal than FIBA. As for your rebounding point, I see what you're saying but that's only going to lead to more loose ball fouls and FTAs, slowing the game down even more. This rule change has the potential to make games resemble a WNBA boxscore, imo

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    Weird.

    I don't like the idea. NBA is too athletic. If they want to experiment with it in the D-League that is fine. I think even in the D-League it will prove that it isn't going to work in the NBA.

    JamStone did make a pretty good argument, however the lane will become a complete cluster with people trying to get the rebound since almost every position can dunk the ball with regularity.

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    How many times do you see a guy shoot the ball and it hits the rim 8 times before dropping and you say something like, "that was totally lucky, they didn't deserve those points?" Well, you're eliminating those kinds of lucky shots. That sounds fair to me.
    Bouncing off the rim 8 times is an exaggeration, but I personally think the 'shooter's roll' is something that should be preserved. Chance favors the prepared mind, or in this case, the prepared shooter.

    If Kyle Korver and Ray Allen are able to miss or make close as a result of their perfect shooting/rotational technique, I see no reason why the League should implement a rule that would basically turn them and every other clean shooter into Shawn Marion.

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    Dennis Rodman is watching this thead with a lot of interest:




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    hope not ... it's a rule.

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    "The NBA beat the Europeans soundly in their own game and now Stern tries to go down to the FIBA level? What a policy by the commish! I mean, come on, FIBA is trying to step up to NBA level!!!"


    "Maybe the rule makes sense for unathletic euros, but the NBA is too long and too good and too athletic for that to make any sense at all."


    Such re comments

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    "The NBA beat the Europeans soundly in their own game and now Stern tries to go down to the FIBA level? What a policy by the commish! I mean, come on, FIBA is trying to step up to NBA level!!!"


    "Maybe the rule makes sense for unathletic euros, but the NBA is too long and too good and too athletic for that to make any sense at all."


    Such re comments
    you. I don't think you have any idea how much longer and more athletic the average NBA player is than any other league's. If you did, you wouldn't be running your mouth like a jackass.

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    "The NBA beat the Europeans soundly in their own game and now Stern tries to go down to the FIBA level? What a policy by the commish! I mean, come on, FIBA is trying to step up to NBA level!!!"

    "Maybe the rule makes sense for unathletic euros, but the NBA is too long and too good and too athletic for that to make any sense at all."

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    Hey, where were you during the 2010 FIBA Worlds?

    They were fouling Americans like fouls were going to be out of stock tomorrow if there was even a slightest hint that the Americans were going out for a fast break attempt. They were constantly hacking them. They beat the FIBA "more physical, less refs, unlike the NBA" game and it's as clear as the day.

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    this rule change could make DJ Mbenga a valuable trade commodity

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    I think some of you think it will drastically change the game, and I don't think that's the case. It might affect a handful of shots a game, and shots that quite frankly should be up for grabs on the rim. It won't affect every single shot that doesn't go in cleanly. A jumpshot that rattles in the rim but is securely within the rim before falling isn't "on" the rim. A lay-up off the glass won't be up for grabs. A ball that hits the heel of the rim, goes straight up in the air, then falls in won't be "on the rim" to be grabbed or batted away.

    These are shots that roll around the rim and probably about half of the time roll off anyway. These are shots that half that 50/50 chance of going in. And, I bet you it will only be a handful of times a game anyway. And you're forgetting that a defensive rebounder still has to fight an offensive rebounder to get the ball or bat it away.

    I think it's a good rule for basketball in general, not just for FIBA. We are so used to the goaltending rule the way it is that we think that's the only way and the only right way to call it. It takes innovative thinking to improve the game. I'm sure a lot of fans thought the three point shot would ruin the game. Some argue that it did. But we as fans accept it as a rule and don't really question it. At its inception, there was no dribbling in basketball. You could only pass the ball and run without the ball. Imagine basketball with no dribbling. This is a rule that has been proven to work at many levels of basketball, including the professional level. It makes a lot more sense than some of you want to believe.

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    JamStone, I get your point. But we have seen its effects on the FIBA level and I'm adamant that this rule change will DESTROY the NBA game.

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    JamStone, I get your point. But we have seen its effects on the FIBA level and I'm adamant that this rule change will DESTROY the NBA game.
    What is its effects on the FIBA level that you've seen?

    If this rule change destroys the NBA game with all the crap already part of the game that should have destroyed a long time ago, then it's a fragile piece of product anyway. The rule change if it's eventually implemented to the NBA at worse will marginally negatively affect the game. At best, it will make it a better product.

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    I don't understand why so many people want to tweak these rules that have very little effect on the quality of the NBA game..I don't think I've ever seen anybody complain about the goaltending rule..I have never even though about it, TBH..why mess with something that doesn't bother most people?..

    The NBA's main flaw is their officiating, and that's the main thing they should be looking to fix, not ing goaltending rules..

    Also, most shots that rim in are not "lucky shots"..just by playing baskeball, you should know that good shooters/finishers are much more likely to get those rolls than inferior shooters/finishers, obviously due to the touch on the shot..yes, there are lucky shots at times, but certainly not enough to add a ridiculous goaltending rule..

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    I find it comical that the NBA addressed it's officiating problem by adding more severe consequences to complaints from it's players, which in result, attempts to lessen the negative perception of their refs..

    Instead of focusing on their serious officiating problem, they try to mask it, and their focus is now going to changing goaltending rules

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    I agree with Jamstone I don't think it's gonna affect the game that much, and it will make boxing out and consistent work on defense a lot more important.

    The Suns are completely ed if this rule gets implemented

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    Both mere speculation and essentially meaningless. I don't see it affecting the game in any but the most marginal ways.

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