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    PETA sucks! Spur_Fanatic's Avatar
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    Nevertheless, it's how I feel like it. Dunno if it's the beers I had just an hour ago, but your post just made me question stupidities like "Why is this word written like this?", "That guy in the TV sounds weird", "The pink on FEEL on that guy's post kinda changes the word meaning".

    No, I'm not stoned.

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    Well, first of all, you shouldn't feel, you should think.
    darrins, why has your posting gotten so much..." Better?" Everything you post now actually makes sense .

    And i like how you put that in purple lmao

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    Anyway, this is the normal chain of events on this cases:

    Israel does something stupid.
    Muslim world in disarray.
    Islamic fundamentalists have a recruitment peak.
    Rest of the world suffers.

    Not mine, quoted from another forum.

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    Biden weighs in:



    “They’ve said, ‘Here you go. You’re in the Mediterranean. This ship — if you divert slightly north you can unload it and we’ll get the stuff into Gaza,’”, he said. “So what’s the big deal here? What’s the big deal of insisting it go straight to Gaza? Well, it’s legitimate for Israel to say, ‘I don’t know what’s on that ship. These guys are dropping… 3,000 rockets on my people.

    “Look, you can argue whether Israel should have dropped people onto that ship or not — but the truth of the matter is, Israel has a right to know — they’re at war with Hamas — has a right to know whether or not arms are being smuggled in.”

    During the interview, Biden also blamed Hamas for the crisis that has wracked the coastal territory and for the ongoing state of conflict with Israel.

    “As we put pressure, and the world put pressure on Israel to let material go into Gaza to help those people who are suffering, the ordinary Palestinians there, what happened? Hamas would confiscate it, put it in a warehouse [and] sell it.

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    PETA sucks! Spur_Fanatic's Avatar
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    He's right on Hamas, ofc.

    But at the same time, can Israel be trusted on sending the relief to Gaza?

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    israel is goin to start the holy war inthe middle east then come callin for eu, nato or usa for help....once the arab countries have had enough with the jews
    Don't see that happening anytime soon seeing as Turkey's a NATO member.

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    Isn't it funny how the most adamant pro-israel take on this situation is coming from the american right-wingers?

    And how they are saying how everyone else in the entire world is wrong about this situation but them?

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    The people on the ship were HEAVILY armed, according to Israel spin doctors:

    http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/...-pepper-spray/

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    Biden weighs in:
    OMG...

    I just about had my first heart attack...

    He got one right!

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    The public rift between Israel and Turkey may be closing somewhat.
    Persistent reports in the Turkish press indicate that Israel will formally apologize and pay compensation for the deaths on the Mavi Marmara.
    http://trueslant.com/nealungerleider...flotilla-raid/

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    ^^^Turkish press reports were wrong.

    However, the UN fact finding mission just released its report on the incident. It concludes that 19 year old US citizen Furcan Dogan and five others were killed execution-style by Israeli commandos, but stopped short of pressing for prosecution by the International Criminal Court..

    The US dissented in the UNHRC vote, and the State Department has said "the tone and conclusions [of the report] are unbalanced."

    link

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    Good, they deserve to die by being unpatriotic s and siding with those who commit terrorist acts against the US. We're better off without them.

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    Gazans are responsible for what terrorist acts against the US?

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    I have a hard time believing that. Where is the report link?

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    OMG...

    Did I miss that again like before, or did you edit and add that?

    I'll chalk that up from being tired. Got off work a little over an hour ago, time to go to bed.

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    Did i miss something? What i found says this:
    The cir stances of the killing of at least six of the passengers were in a manner consistent with an extra-legal, arbitrary and summary execution.
    That is not a conclusion with certainty of action. If I missed something, please show me. Otherwise, I will contend that that news source you trust lied.

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    OMG...

    Did I miss that again like before, or did you edit and add that?
    If I had, there'd be a footnote saying so.

    I'll chalk that up from being tired. Got off work a little over an hour ago, time to go to bed.
    There you go.

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    Did i miss something? What i found says this:

    That is not a conclusion with certainty of action. If I missed something, please show me. Otherwise, I will contend that that news source you trust lied.
    I said "killed execution style"

    You're splitting hairs, counselor.

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    I said "killed execution style"

    You're splitting hairs, counselor.
    maybe. It actually goes on to say:
    Israeli forces carried out extralegal,
    arbitrary and summary executions prohibited by international human rights law,
    specifically article 6 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
    I guess you couldn't correct me on that.

    Still, appearances are not always correct. Such shooting are also consistent with close combat and a sure kill if you are behind the criminal, if they are about to shoot or strike someone else. You go for the shot that turns them off immediately.

    I have a hard time believing the testimony of a criminal group vs, the professionalism of the Israli military. If there was a bad apple among them, I'm pretty sure the others would have turned him in.

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    was there a bad apple?

    why would israeli military professionalism pay compensation?

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    maybe. It actually goes on to say:

    I guess you couldn't correct me on that.

    Still, appearances are not always correct. Such shooting are also consistent with close combat and a sure kill if you are behind the criminal, if they are about to shoot or strike someone else. You go for the shot that turns them off immediately.

    I have a hard time believing the testimony of a criminal group vs, the professionalism of the Israli military. If there was a bad apple among them, I'm pretty sure the others would have turned him in.
    Professionalism of Israeli military?

    What exactly makes you think that the Israeli military is more professional than the US military? and there have been plenty of ups by US armed forces in Iraq.

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    WC, I would think that forensics experts would be able to tell the difference between execution-style killings and those in combat. For one thing, I think it would be quite hard to get the same shot, from what I'm assuming is roughly the same angle, on six different people in the middle of combat.

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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    I have a hard time believing the testimony of a criminal group vs, the professionalism of the Israli military. If there was a bad apple among them, I'm pretty sure the others would have turned him in.

    at least you're objectivity cannot be called into question.

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    at least you're objectivity cannot be called into question.


    Conformation bias like a mother er. Jesus.

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