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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete....html?ITO=1490


    Can I get some kind of cash-for-clunkers subsidy? Because this car, for the super-wealthy, enviro-hypochondriac, costs $200K.



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    i suspect your car was a clunker when you bought it.

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    i suspect your car was a clunker when you bought it.

    Meh, it's no clunker, but it's not nearly as cool as that hybrid. I'm just not a person that spends more on a car than my house.

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    Meh, it's no clunker, but it's not nearly as cool as that hybrid. I'm just not a person that spends more on a car than my house.
    Pretty sure that the people who can afford that car also own a house more expensive than that car.

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    It goes 205 mph. Of course its going to be mindlessly expensive. What are the S600s going for nowadays? $125k? They do not go that fast.

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    That's not bad at all for 200k.

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    Actually, it's more like $320K, but it's still a cool car.

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    Kickass doesn't begin to describe that car... wow

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    Concept cars seldom make it to market.

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    Enviro-Hypochondriac?

    SMH


    Anyway I think the CR-Z is a pretty damn good hybrid that is extremely affordable.

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    I was wondering when someone was going to finally wise up and start using turbines as the auxiliary power source. I could really see electric cars with small diesel turbine auxiliary becoming the "workhorse" of the economical hybrids of the future.

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    I was wondering when someone was going to finally wise up and start using turbines as the auxiliary power source. I could really see electric cars with small diesel turbine auxiliary becoming the "workhorse" of the economical hybrids of the future.
    I don't see them making it into the consumer market. In my opinion, they're heavy to make the shielding required in case the blades fly apart. They can be very dangerous if improperly maintained. They're expensive enough to begin with.

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    I don't know...I think a reliable small turbine/generator could be mass produced with a strong, light, composite case. It could be an interesting concept.

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    The Germans and Japanese have pretty much perfected small, aluminum, clean 4-cyl diesels, which make a lot more sense for hybrids than gasoline, and they could burn bio-diesel if a source was ever reasonable. These diesels get better mileage now than complex hybrids, and don't have inevitable multi $1000s battery replacement cost.

    But the Americans have been marketed by Detroit to against diesel anything. All the European and Japanese mfrs sell small diesel cars everywhere but USA, primarily because marketing hasn't skewed the public, and high-taxed fuel forces people to think about running costs.

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    I don't know...I think a reliable small turbine/generator could be mass produced with a strong, light, composite case. It could be an interesting concept.
    I agree, if that is in fact possible. I just don't think it is. Yes, I could be wrong, but how much would these alloys cost, and what about the complications of injury during traffic accidents?

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    The Germans and Japanese have pretty much perfected small, aluminum, clean 4-cyl diesels, which make a lot more sense for hybrids than gasoline, and they could burn bio-diesel if a source was ever reasonable. These diesels get better mileage now than complex hybrids, and don't have inevitable multi $1000s battery replacement cost.
    LOL...

    Cheap biodiesel is a very limited resource. Just how many cars do you think we can provide power for this way?

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    For the record, I am for a future car that used direct methane fuel cells.

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    For the record, I am for a future car that used direct methane fuel cells.
    One that will run off the atmosphere surrounding and emanating from Uranus?

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    One that will run off the atmosphere surrounding and emanating from Uranus?
    LOL...

    Now you're getting out there...

    No, there is a fuel cell technology that needs better development that uses methane (the major component of natural gas) rather than hydrogen. Natural gas can be compressed denser and safer than hydrogen, and we have an abundance of it now. It is the best solution for today's technical state, but the AGW crowd will say NO because it still has a carbon footprint.

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    LOL...

    Now you're getting out there...

    No, there is a fuel cell technology that needs better development that uses methane (the major component of natural gas) rather than hydrogen. Natural gas can be compressed denser and safer than hydrogen, and we have an abundance of it now. It is the best solution for today's technical state, but the AGW crowd will say NO because it still has a carbon footprint.
    I'm sorry, did I say Uranus? I meant your anus. Another source of abundant methane.

    There, that's closer to home.

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    I'm sorry, did I say Uranus? I meant your anus. Another source of abundant methane.

    There, that's closer to home.
    That's exactly how I read your comment the first time.

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    That's exactly how I read your comment the first time.
    Yes, we all look forward to the day when they develop methane-recovery car seats and all you need to do is have a methane-producing diet to fuel your car.

    Chili and beans anyone?

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    Yes, we all look forward to the day when they develop methane-recovery car seats and all you need to do is have a methane-producing diet to fuel your car.

    Chili and beans anyone?
    LOL...

    I remember seeing a gas collection patent years ago where a devise was put up a persons ass, to collect methane. Please stop giving me those mental pictures.

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    75 mpg from a production diesel (of course, it's not American. America can't do anymore)

    http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/10...tories+2%29%29

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    Meanwhile, the can-do Americans:

    "first phase of the national program that will boost fuel efficiency to 35.5 miles per gallon by model year 2016."

    http://www.greenbiz.com/news/2010/10...fuel-standards
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