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    I'm saying uncovering an underlying story of great public significance might justify cutting a few corners. O'Keefe did no such thing.
    Are you absolutely certain of that? What would your response be then if he did uncover a real juicy story?

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    Sincerely,
    The guy who blindly supported Bush in Iraq
    there you go again, exposing your ass again by ASSuming untrue things. I never blindly support people that I don't personally know.

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    there you go again, exposing your ass again by ASSuming untrue things. I never blindly support people that I don't personally know.

    Wild Cobra-What I see today is that most blacks are racists, and almost no whites are.

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    Are you absolutely certain of that? What would your response be then if he did uncover a real juicy story?
    Did he?

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    Consequentialism is the big bad here. O'Keefe's consequences were puny in the end, but he took down ACORN. For some people, that's enough to put his portrait on a plate.

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    Awwwww...

    So in your book, the ends justify the means?

    I get it.
    Does that mean torturing captured terrorists is wrong?

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    Does that mean torturing captured terrorists is wrong?
    That's right, go run to an unrelated tangent when you agree with me, but are hard headed enough you refuse to acknowledge it.

    No, torture is wrong. The only exception I would make would be imminent large scale necessity, like stopping the countdown of a nuclear bomb.

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    Battleground shifts to Texas: http://www.texastribune.org/2014/01/27/brief/

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    O'Keefe's losing streak remains intact: http://www.burntorangereport.com/upl...407_115219.pdf

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    He won today in TX court

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    wut? link please?

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    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04...video-a/198786

    This is all I could find and is not exactly a win.

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    boutons' losing streak remains intact . . .

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    As Rummy repeats ad nausea, happens

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    Federal prosecutors pull an O'Keefe:

    Federal prosecutors hid evidence from anti-Trump activists set to go on trial, two judges ruled this week.

    For months, prosecutors have claimed a video by the conservative group Project Veritas proved that anti-Trump activists conspired to riot outside his inauguration. Court rules required the prosecution to disclose all edits made to the Project Veritas video, which purports to show some anti-Trump activists discussing the protest in advance. Instead, prosecutors passed off an edited video as undoctored, a judge ruled Wednesday and a second judge confirmed Thursday.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/feds-hid-edits-in-right-wing-video-used-to-prosecute-anti-trump-protesters

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    dozens of Brady violations, selective edits:

    that initial, single Brady violation is actually part of a much broader pattern of evidence-concealing, the lawyers now say. The government has concealed another 69 separate recordings — three audio files and 66 videos — of planning meetings for the Inauguration protests known as #DisruptJ20, defense lawyers say in the motion.

    The recordings, which were made by employees of the right-wing Project Veritas, purportedly show defendants discussing de-escalation tactics and their intent not to initiate physical violence with anyone unless they are attacked first. The prosecutor had previously told the judge that no recordings existed from the meetings where the newly revealed audio and videos were made.

    “The Government has succeeded in misleading over 200 co-defendants, their attorneys, and three Honorable Superior Court Judges to believe there were only seven videos in its possession from Project Veritas,” attorney Andrew Clarke wrote in the filing. “Only by Order of the Court and more recently, its own disclosures, we now know the truth, that the Government withheld 69 additional recordings by Project Veritas and altered others.”
    via https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...fendants.shtml

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    Prosecutors should go to jail and lose their licenses for like this

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    Prosecutors should go to jail and lose their licenses for like this
    We'll see if anyone gets disbarred. In the current environment... I wish I could be more certain.

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    JeBo will attempt to make sure his DoJ liars go free, and J20 protesters get screwed

    Depends on the judging,

    which is of course why the Repugs/Federalist Soc are corrupting, polluting the courts with extreme right wing, incompetent ideologues, aka "politicians in robes", as we see with the SCOTUS5.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 06-05-2018 at 11:56 AM.

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    Prosecutors should go to jail and lose their licenses for like this
    completely agree

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    Prosecutors should go to jail and lose their licenses for like this
    state and local prosecutors have been caught withholding exculpating evidence.

    How many went to jail, or were just disbarred?

    prosecuting the lawless prosecutors just doesn't happen, sorta like bad doctors and nurses can move around and start over. The professional "blue wall"

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    Ida wrecks Project Veritas' offices

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    Ida wrecks Project Veritas' offices

    ?s=20
    IT'S A SIGN!!!

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    ACLU is right. Whether O'Keefe is a legit member of press as determined by prosecutors is beside the point -- prosecutors shouldn't have the discretion to deny activists privacy rights based on their own opinion about whether the target is a journalist or not. It's not very hard to imagine political leadership that would declare the press illegitimate and prosecute it based on unfavorable coverage.

    DOJ says it's treating O'Keefe as if he were a member of the press and following pertinent DOJ protocols, but the raid on his home because someone else stole Ashley Biden's electronic device looks like overkill. Even if it turns out O'Keefe was directly involved, the appointment of a special master sounds reasonable.

    “Project Veritas has engaged in disgraceful deceptions, and reasonable observers might not consider their activities to be journalism at all. Nevertheless, the precedent set in this case could have serious consequences for press freedom. Unless the government had good reason to believe that Project Veritas employees were directly involved in the criminal theft of the diary, it should not have subjected them to invasive searches and seizures. We urge the court to appoint a special master to ensure that law enforcement officers review only those materials that were lawfully seized and that are directly relevant to a legitimate criminal investigation.”
    https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/...eritas-founder
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