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    Is coming to a close.

    The luck of landing one magical ping pong that bounced in the Spurs favor in the 1997 draft lottery is clearly going to be remembered in the city of San Antonio for a long time. But the question remains, will the Spurs ever be so lucky again?

    The 1997 draft was unique to other lotteries in that the prize was a bona fide concensus #1 pick, a once in a lifetime player. This is very different from say the 1998 draft the Clippers won and drafted Michael Olowakandi.

    So it was not only dumb luck to tank a season increasing the draft lottery balls but also the coincidence that the 97 draft was a "super draft" due to Duncan's inclusion.

    All that said does anyone here believe the Spurs will ever be able to produce another magical ping pong ball era in their lifetime? There may be a few young bucks on this board who may live long enough to see that day. Thoughts?

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    No valid response = concession. Thanks for playing She-Ra

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    It's the lottery... it's luck bro.

    I think that due to the quality of the front office, we'll be able to obtain another great franchise player(s) after duncan retires, but will he be as good as duncan? who knows

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    ST is very lucky to have all these quality new posters flocking in...

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    ...a.k.a. mAtT!iC3 mudyez's Avatar
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    we had two of them: Robinson and Duncan! so why not have some more in the future!

    after all its the way, smaller market teams work. LA, NY(lol), CHI, MIA may attract free agents or get players to tell the Hornets, that they don't want to play there, but SA has to either have some luck (which you cant count on) or do a good job scouting/handling the cap (which we are great at).

    that brings me to another point:
    its not like you only have to get lucky and be able to land this one player! like the Lebron situation or KG in minnesota shows, you also have to have a great organisation to make it work. and I wouldnt trade ours for any other.

    i feel great with our organisation and even while a team like LA may win more chanpionships over the next 50 years, I think, we will be able to be better than them, when considering the market!

    the new CBA may help :-)

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    ST is very lucky to have all these quality new posters flocking in...

    No no. ST is lucky to have all these homers sitting around avoiding the obvious 24/7 pretending like the Duncan era will continue into infinity. That's the true power of delusion.

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    ...a.k.a. mAtT!iC3 mudyez's Avatar
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    btw.: in the candyyear, the Clipps passed on Nowitky, Pierce, Carter...none of them beeing a Duncan, but its the Clipps for gods sake!

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    No no. ST is lucky to have all these homers sitting around avoiding the obvious 24/7 pretending like the Duncan era will continue into infinity. That's the true power of delusion.
    show me a ST poster, that thinks we will compete for the next 5 years and I show you a Lakers homer, that has a broken heard, coz another warm weather city my cause some trouble!

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    you know after a while if you make so many troll threads luva you do end up getting banned right?

    Ain't being part of the lottery part of an nba franchise?

    didn't lakers tank from 05-07 seasons o wait they just sucked that's how they got good again

    spurs could do the same thing and tank for those 3 seasons and be back on the winning track that easy

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    let's hope we have a CONSENSUS hard cap. that way homers like you won't have money-infatuated, money-inflated, money-outside-of-the-court-room-settled teams to boast on other forums.

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    we had two of them: Robinson and Duncan! so why not have some more in the future!

    after all its the way, smaller market teams work. LA, NY(lol), CHI, MIA may attract free agents or get players to tell the Hornets, that they don't want to play there, but SA has to either have some luck (which you cant count on) or do a good job scouting/handling the cap (which we are great at).

    that brings me to another point:
    its not like you only have to get lucky and be able to land this one player! like the Lebron situation or KG in minnesota shows, you also have to have a great organisation to make it work. and I wouldnt trade ours for any other.

    i feel great with our organisation and even while a team like LA may win more chanpionships over the next 50 years, I think, we will be able to be better than them, when considering the market!

    the new CBA may help :-)

    Robinson is not on the level of Duncan but landing both within a few years of one another is just another dimension of luck.

    Since 1980 there have been only perhaps 8 players who are mega-franchise players:

    - Magic
    - Bird
    - Hakeem
    - Jordan
    - Shaq
    - Kobe
    - Tim
    - Lebron

    5 were consensus number 1 picks, 2 were overlooked by teams and 1 was pioneer.

    Getting lucky enough to draft one of these guys is rare especially when you have to win a lottery draft and hope it's during a year that a player like one of these guys is available.

    Given the odds, I say no, not in our lifetime will we see this type of luck produced again.

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    So it was not only dumb luck to tank a season increasing the draft lottery balls but also the coincidence that the 97 draft was a "super draft" due to Duncan's inclusion.
    Agenda fail, Mr. "Basketball First"

    The Spurs did not "tank" the season. Their best player broke his foot and played six games the entire season. The draft pick is legit. Sorry. Try again.

    All that said does anyone here believe the Spurs will ever be able to produce another magical ping pong ball era in their lifetime? There may be a few young bucks on this board who may live long enough to see that day. Thoughts?
    Who gives a ?

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    let's hope we have a CONSENSUS hard cap. that way homers like you won't have money-infatuated, money-inflated, money-outside-of-the-court-room-settled teams to boast on other forums.

    The Lakers are the only team to have continued success throughout every era of the NBA regardless of caps or not.

    We're not the franchise who only became relevant upon winning a super draft lottery.

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    ...a.k.a. mAtT!iC3 mudyez's Avatar
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    The Lakers are the only team to have continued success throughout every era of the NBA regardless of caps or not.

    We're not the franchise who only became relevant upon winning a super draft lottery.
    their is no denying that and I won't even bother about the Gasol trade anymore (well, i just did...sorry!).

    your a big market team, which should be successfull! NY does a bad job doing so...Chicago could do better. Boston does well.

    So you get my props for that!

    But on the other hand a team from San Antonio is the 4th winingest Team (behind BOS, LA, CHI) in league history??? holy S$%&!!!

    Well, we must have done something right!

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    Robinson is not on the level of Duncan but landing both within a few years of one another is just another dimension of luck.

    Since 1980 there have been only perhaps 8 players who are mega-franchise players:

    - Magic
    - Bird
    - Hakeem
    - Jordan
    - Shaq
    - Kobe
    - Tim
    - Lebron

    5 were consensus number 1 picks, 2 were overlooked by teams and 1 was pioneer.

    Getting lucky enough to draft one of these guys is rare especially when you have to win a lottery draft and hope it's during a year that a player like one of these guys is available.

    Given the odds, I say no, not in our lifetime will we see this type of luck produced again.
    the has LeBron done? don't put him name on that list ever since he won't ever win a ring as the first option now

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    the has LeBron done? don't put him name on that list ever since he won't ever win a ring as the first option now
    agreed!

    and with the super-team move he more or less erased himself from that list!

    in 2 years from now we probably will include Durant though!

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    The Lakers are the only team to have continued success throughout every era of the NBA regardless of caps or not.

    We're not the franchise who only became relevant upon winning a super draft lottery.
    I guess you forgot 2005 and 2006. Maybe you weren't born yet.

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    No no. ST is lucky to have all these homers sitting around avoiding the obvious 24/7 pretending like the Duncan era will continue into infinity. That's the true power of delusion.
    The same way LAL fan thinks the Bean era will continue into infinity? 60% man, Bean himself said, he felt 60%. Yeah, he'll start to feel better, but Bean ain't a spring chicken either.

    Predictably, here is where you'll attempt to wow us with Bean's supposed cloak of invincibility that prevents him from feeling the effects of Father Time.

    Hey, you never answered the question...would you say the LAL won that last le in a dominating fashion?

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    ...a.k.a. mAtT!iC3 mudyez's Avatar
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    The Lakers are the only team to have continued success throughout every era of the NBA regardless of caps or not.

    We're not the franchise who only became relevant upon winning a super draft lottery.
    had to google it (of course not really):

    ervin magic johnson: 1979 first round 1st pick...

    ...I know was not the lottery and so on, but its not like you got a mediocre and made him what he is, or stole a hidden gem late in the draft!

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    Makes you say hmmm... YoMamaIsCallin's Avatar
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    We're not the franchise who only became relevant upon winning a super draft lottery.
    "We" ?? So you're associated with the Lakers somehow?


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    had to google it (of course not really):

    ervin magic johnson: 1979 first round 1st pick...

    ...I know was not the lottery and so on, but its not like you got a mediocre and made him what he is, or stole a hidden gem late in the draft!
    That was another heist. Histrionics can thank the Gail for Earvin.

    For James Worthy,who was another overall #1 pick that the LAL got as well, he can thank the 6th Beach Boy.

    Funny thing about the 90's era of basketball was that outside of Jordan's 1st le, that was the only time the LAL went to the finals in that entire period, even though they got Shaq & Bean in 1996.
    Last edited by Man In Black; 10-06-2010 at 06:14 PM.

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    As far as the lottery is concerned, the era of the magical ping-pong ball has not been lost.

    1st overall pick with less than 10% chance (since 1997)
    2008: Chicago Bulls - 1.7% chance
    2007: Portland Trailblazers - 5.3% chance
    2006: Toronto Raptors - 8.8% chance
    2005: Milwaukee Bucks - 6.3% chance
    2002: Houston Rockets - 8.9% chance
    2000: New Jersey Nets - 4.3% chance

    As a matter of fact, with exception of the 1998 Los Angeles Clippers, 2003 Cleveland Cavaliers, and 2005 Orlando Magic, every team that has drafted first did it with a worse percentage of winning the lottery than the San Antonio Spurs in 1997.

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    Lol fat 60 yr old

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