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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...ory?id=5655204

    2. Richard Jefferson, F, San Antonio Spurs

    Age Years Owed pPER 09-10 PER 30 4 $38.9M 12.3 13.1

    Few players have experienced a more precipitous drop in value than Jefferson over the past few seasons. After posting a 17.4 PER in 2007-08, his rating dipped to 15.4 in 2008-09 and fell to a career-low 13.1 last season. And in one of the most confounding offseason events in recent NBA history, Jefferson opted out of his deal with San Antonio, thereby leaving $15.2 million on the table in 2010-11, and then promptly signed a four-year deal with the Spurs that will last through his age 33 season.
    Most metrics point to Jefferson producing barely above replacement-level next season and, given his age, he's not a good bet to reverse the trend. Bringing him back was a very uncharacteristic signing for one of the shrewdest franchises in the league.

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    but but but...He's been working out with Popped.

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    but but but...He's been working out with Popped.

    but but but its the best move the franchise could have done under the cir stances....

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    but but but its the best move the franchise could have done under the cir stances....
    But, but, but, but, the money doesn't matter!

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    but but but two of the above posters have hidden agendas that are as innovative as a rock.

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    But, but, but, if you look at the luxury tax money they saved millions of dollars. Well, they actually spent ten million dollars more to lock him here for three years, but it's somehow a great money-saving move for the front office, and isn't that what the NBA is all about?

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    He will be a nice expering contract in 3 years

    I'm really confident RJ's numbers will be around 15 to 16 this year and will be the 4th leading scorer on the team which of course I'll take that

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    One good year from Jefferson and this is all meaningless.

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    One good year from Jefferson and this is all meaningless.


    but but but keeping Jefferson makes us contenders! LA Miami here we come!!! Jefferson is going to take you down!

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    One good year from Jefferson and this is all meaningless.
    Actually he's likely to be here for at least three and maybe four years. I'd like to see more than one good year from him. Do we really have to set the bar that low for someone making so much money?

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    Actually he's likely to be here for at least three and maybe four years. I'd like to see more than one good year from him. Do we really have to set the bar that low for someone making so much money?
    The point was, if Jefferson has a good year, his contract will not be as difficult to move. It's only a lot of money when you consider the perception left around the league of his " off" year with the Spurs, but if you look at the previous year with the Bucks combined with a possible "turn around" year with the Spurs, and that perception will change.
    He doesn't make that much money for a lottery team in need of a good wing.

    but but but keeping Jefferson makes us contenders! LA Miami here we come!!! Jefferson is going to take you down!
    O_V gets a pass, but you are too stupid to explain anything to.

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    One good year from Jefferson and this is all meaningless.
    Lol, that's how bad it is huh?

    4 year contract and all you need is "one good year" and that will take care of everything for you?

    Good luck getting that "good year" out of him regardless.

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    One of the worst NBA contracts in the last 10 years, TBH..

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    The point was, if Jefferson has a good year, his contract will not be as difficult to move. It's only a lot of money when you consider the perception left around the league of his " off" year with the Spurs, but if you look at the previous year with the Bucks combined with a possible "turn around" year with the Spurs, and that perception will change.
    He doesn't make that much money for a lottery team in need of a good wing.



    O_V gets a pass, but you are too stupid to explain anything to.

    Nothing to explain to me oh so bright one.

    BlackMagic believes that re-signing Jefferson was key in keeping the Spurs le hopes alive.

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    One of the worst NBA contracts in the last 10 years, TBH..
    Absolutely.

    And the funny thing is that every bad contract actually gets worse each passing year. Right now, this is the best the deal is ever going to look. Imagine in 2014 when RJ is 34 years old, nursing a slew of injuries averaging 3.4 minutes per game and making $11 million. Should be great since this was the best that the Spurs could do under the cir stance.

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    Jefferson is going to have a nice season.

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    Lol, that's how bad it is huh?

    4 year contract and all you need is "one good year" and that will take care of everything for you?

    Good luck getting that "good year" out of him regardless.
    That's the 2nd time you referenced the same quote without understanding it.

    Jefferson having a good year this season is not out of the realm of possibility. I would say it's fairly probable.

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    Absolutely.

    And the funny thing is that every bad contract actually gets worse each passing year. Right now, this is the best the deal is ever going to look. Imagine in 2014 when RJ is 34 years old, nursing a slew of injuries averaging 3.4 minutes per game and making $11 million. Should be great since this was the best that the Spurs could do under the cir stance.
    $11 million expiring contract is not bad tbh we might just trade it for another contract like we did last season or just let it expire and sign john wall,evan turner and derick favors in the summer of 2014

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    Jefferson having a contract hard to move isn't a drawback given that Spurs aren't trying to move him.

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    One of the worst NBA contracts in the last 10 years, TBH..
    1. Eddy Curry
    2. Kandi Man
    3. Agent 0, post surgery
    4. B-Diddy, Clips
    5. Jerome James
    6. Peja
    7. Brian Cardinal
    8. Elton Brand, Philly
    9. Maggette, GS
    10. Biedrens, GS

    These are all either at ude guys or the chronically injured. RJ is neither.

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    - "One of" isn't limited to 10 contracts..

    - The logic behind signing a 30+ year old Jefferson to his current contract makes less sense than most, if not all of those guys on that list..the majority of those guys were coming off good years and potentially entering their primes, while Jefferson is coming off a poor year and is clearly past his prime..

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    1. Eddy Curry
    2. Kandi Man
    3. Agent 0, post surgery
    4. B-Diddy, Clips
    5. Jerome James
    6. Peja
    7. Brian Cardinal
    8. Elton Brand, Philly
    9. Maggette, GS
    10. Biedrens, GS

    These are all either at ude guys or the chronically injured. RJ is neither.
    I'll add five more to this list.

    11. Grant Hill's contract with Orlando, I believe for 91M
    12. Devean George's 5/25 deal with the Lakers
    13. Sasha's 5/25 deal with the Lakers
    14. Luke Walton's 5/25 deal with the Lakers
    15. Matt Bonner's current contract with the Spurs

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    What Bruno said....The point is moot because the Spurs placed their bets on RJ and they aren't trying to move him. They probably will 2 years from now though and his contract should not be as crappy (meaning it will be less about his game and more about the length of the contract).

    Still, a terrible signing overall. Even at 5M less per year, he is not worth anything near the value of his contract.

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    Again, the logic behind those moves make a lot more sense than the logic behind signing Jefferson..

    - Coming off a poor season..
    - At the age where most players of his kind start to decline..
    - No longer has a niche in the NBA..
    - Long-term contract with a lot of $..
    - Doesn't fit with the team..
    - There was no market for him, no other teams appeared to be interested..

    While those deals all turned out to be bad, at least their teams had the correct logic in making the move(for most of them, not all)..

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    15. Matt Bonner's current contract with the Spurs
    RJ's contract wouldn't hurt quite as much if this one didn't simultaneously exist.

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