So I went to visit ESPN board seeing all this tbone bull .
Suddenly, I see "Discuss Kobe's 1 MVP in 14 years" as name of a thread. It may very well by the greatest thread le. Why didn't I think of this?
Why does Kobe only have 1 MVP if he is supposedly a top 10 all-time player while playing in one of the weaker eras in NBA history (2000's)?
Kobe actually has three MVP's: Most Valuable Passenger.
Regular season doesn`t mean anything. All that matters is the finals mvp bro. He has ... oh wait
Kobe Bryant= Grayson
*crickets chirping*
yup, he has one MVP and he was given the award in the wrong year (Paul should've arguably won it in 2008). How he didn't win it in 2006 is an embarrassment to the game though. He was unconscious that year
Well, lets start with how the MVP is decided. The award is one given by sports writers, not NBA peers. It's not perfect.
Meanwhile, in the same decade, Shaquille O'Neal has exactly one Most Valuable Player trophy. O'Neal and Bryant cancelled out each others votes before 2004-05. Secondly, in the year he had the 6th-best scoring season in NBA history (2005-06), Bryant was robbed by giving it to the more popular Steve Nash. To reference Steven A. Smith, he chose Nash simply because the reigning MVP had a better season than the one before it. Nash got many votes because Amar'e Stoudemire was lost for the season and the Suns won 54 games. It is in this season that I lost all confidence in postseason awards and started cheering against Steve Nash.
Dirk, the next season, led the Dallas Mavericks to their best season ever while Nowitzki was recognized, in part, because the Mavericks had been the best team in the West the year before and Nash had won the award over him. Kobe was still languishing on a bad team. Meanwhile, Lebron James was robbed of the 2007-08 MVP because the voters hadn't rewarded Bryant yet, and James was on a bad team. Sound familiar?
In short, it's a stupid award. It doesn't pick the best player, just the most popular with the most team success. When his team got off the ground and Bryant was given credit for their success, he received the award. Why he didn't win in 2008-09 is beyond me.
Oh, there was this guy called LeBron James and his Cavaliers team winning 66 games in the regular season. His statistical dominance and team record led him to that award and it wasn't a lifetime achievement award unlike the 2008 MVP winner.
Awards in other sports are often controversial.
Nolan Ryan is arguably one of the greatest pitchers of all time, yet he never won the Cy Young award. He is noted for his numerous no hitters and his constant and record setting strikeouts. His main weakness was he gave up a lot of bases on balls, but then again, look how many NBA MVP's couldn't shoot free throws. One of Nolan's misfortunes was he usually played on bad teams. In 1973 he set the MLB record for strikeouts in a season, and that was the first year the designated hitter was used. So he never got to pitch against pitchers for easy KO's. The AL Cy Young award that year went to Jim Palmer, a deserving player. The logic in giving it to Palmer was not only did he have a great season, he helped his Orioles win their division.
The sillyness of that logic came on the heels of the 1972 NL Cy Young winner, Steve Carlton, who was 27-10 with an ERA of about 1.89. The Phillies finished 59-97, thus were 32-85 in games Carlton had no decision; a pace to finish 44-118.
There are countless similar examples in all sports.
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and Ryan deserved a Cy Young for this alone:
If memory serves me correctly, I believe he set the record against my Twins! I think I watched it on TV. He did win one world series ring in 1969 with the Amazing Mets. They used him in the bullpen....
A Texas native, he finished his career with the Astros, then the Rangers. Those no-hitters and strikeouts never stopped.... He got his 5,000th career strikeout against Ricky Henderson of the Oakland A's when that team was beasting 20 years ago.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...ryanno01.shtml
Tough game tonight...I thought they were finally gonna get over on NYY, but Gardenhire went Grady Little in the 6th (so did Girardi in the bottom of the 6th). That's gonna be tough to bounce back from
Oh no, his legacy is in jeopardy again!
There are several requisites for MVP, that award is more important than finals MVP, because MVP's are lock for the hall of fame. It's sometimes seen that the finals MVP isn't won by the best player of the team, because an player can be on fire for few games or there could be some favourable match-up, but it's more difficult to dominate the whole season.
- The player must be the best player of his team.
- The player can't miss too many games.
- The team, where the MVP plays, must have the best regular season record.
- If not, then must be near the best and the player must have remarkable statistics.
- Until the 2002-2003 season, Shaq was the leader of the Lakers.
- For the 2003-2004 season, the Lakers had 56-26 record but the T-Wolfs were 58-24. The Pacers had a better record, but Garnett had much better stats than J. O'Neal and Kobe too. Duncan missed more than 10 games that season and the Spurs had 57 wins.
- Previous the Gasol for Kwame "trade", the Lakers had awful records: 34-48 for 2004-2005, 45-37 for 2005-2006, and 42-40 for 2006-2007. Kobe wasn't even the second best in the MVP balloting in those years.
- Kobe won the award in 2007-2008. The Lakers had 57-25 record, it was a better record by a game than the Hornets and Paul didn't have better stats than Kobe. The Celtics and Pistons had better records, but Kobe had much better stats than any player from those teams.
- For the 2008-2009 and 2009-2010 seasons, the Cavs had better record than the Lakers and LeBron had better stats than Kobe.
had duncen played those other 10 games instead of injury and won those games, i doubt the nba wouldve awarded him a 3rd mvp...since he was posting up nearly the same stats as previous season...i think even shaq missed about 10 games that season also
How many Coach of the Year awards does Phil Jackson have?
reframing this right quik
That's because Kobe is about to win his 6th NBA le and will go down as a top 5 all-time player.
Hahahahaha @ Hakeem only winning two
you mean the two years Jordan left?reframing this right quik
That's because Kobe is about to win his 6th NBA le and will go down as a top 5 all-time player.
Hahahahaha @ Hakeem only winning two
Kobe was a sidekick most of his career
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