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Some Laker fans will freak out over the PER and certain stats but all I care about are the LOB's in the office of Doc Buss and those banners flying high.
Oh, I get it now.
Regular season PER.
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pet * 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston* 24.72
10. Charles Barkley* 24.63
11. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
12. Magic Johnson* 24.11
13. Karl Malone* 23.90
14. Dirk Nowitzki 23.76
15. Kevin Garnett 23.59
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
17. Kobe Bryant 23.50
Career playoff PER:
1. Michael Jordan* 28.59
2. George Mikan* 28.51
3. LeBron James 27.08
4. Shaquille O'Neal 26.16
5. Tim Duncan 25.74
6. Hakeem Olajuwon* 25.69
7. Tracy McGrady 24.66
8. Dirk Nowitzki 24.66
9. Charles Barkley* 24.18
10. Dwyane Wade 24.04
11. Amare Stoudemire 23.86
12. Dwight Howard 23.33
13. Dolph Schayes* 23.29
14. Jerry West* 23.06
15. David Robinson* 23.02
16. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 23.01
17. Magic Johnson* 22.95
18. Wilt Chamberlain* 22.77
19. Bob Pet * 22.59
20. Kobe Bryant 22.36
Regular season win shares:
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 273.41
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 247.26
3. Karl Malone* 234.62
4. Michael Jordan* 214.02
5. John Stockton* 207.70
6. Oscar Robertson* 189.21
7. Shaquille O'Neal 178.99
8. David Robinson* 178.67
9. Charles Barkley* 177.21
10. Reggie Miller 174.40
11. Moses Malone* 167.07
12. Kevin Garnett 165.71
13. Bill Russell* 163.51
14. Hakeem Olajuwon* 162.77
15. Jerry West* 162.58
16. Tim Duncan 162.31
17. Magic Johnson* 155.79
18. Dirk Nowitzki 150.18
19. Robert Parish* 147.00
20. Kobe Bryant 145.93
Playoff win shares:
1. Michael Jordan* 39.76
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 35.56
3. Magic Johnson* 32.63
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.46
5. Shaquille O'Neal 31.08
6. Tim Duncan 28.61
7. Bill Russell* 27.76
8. Jerry West* 26.75
9. Kobe Bryant 26.12
Now before you mouthbreathing Kobe suckers fly off the handle and say, 'W-Well, PER is a joke. Just look how Amare is ranked above my precious, beautiful, wonderful Kobe Bryant. Right there, that abomination against God should invalidate its legitimacy." First of all, Amare doesn't really deserve his place on the list because he has nowhere near the games played as Bryant, so obviously his stat is going to be skewed (same with Dwight Howard, among others).
And secondly, if you Lakers fans didn't have IQs in the range of LA's yearly temperature average, you'd understand that PER simply takes what elements of the game can be measured, adjusts for minutes and pace, and arrives at a number. It simplifies the whole bersome exercise of comparing individual stat categories between two players. This way we don't have to say, "But player A averages more assists," "Yeah, but player B averages three times as many rebounds," "But player A had a higher FG%," "Yeah, but..." You get the point.
We simply use PER in conjunction with observation to arrive at an overall opinion of a player's worth (PER underrates Magic and Bird because it's a tad biased against assists, and of course it can't measure a player's total defensive impact). It's not a be all end all. But it's pretty obvious why you Kobe fan s don't like it (Luva, Shaolin/tbone, Koolaids, etc) and dismiss it every time someone uses it to illuminate a point. Because Kobe Bryant's PER (along with some other advanced stats) doesn't compare relatively well with the other all time greats.
Last edited by midnightpulp; 10-07-2010 at 09:42 PM.
Some Laker fans will freak out over the PER and certain stats but all I care about are the LOB's in the office of Doc Buss and those banners flying high.
regulated, imho
I'm sure when people look back on Kobe's career, they'll turn to this.
first they'll realize kobe couldn't win jack without being the robin to a big man.
Big man dependent, imo.Please love my Kobe.
I know i know, you're upset. I would be to if i was a Spurs fan.
Why? My team won 4 les, all of which I got to witness. When I became a fan, I never imagined they'd win that many. So I'm pretty content. Yeah, the run has ended, but all good things must.
I'm also content with the fact that I can comfortably sit down because I don't have Kobe Bryant's planted in my rectum, unlike yourself.
Unfortunately you will forever hate the the Lakers b/c they overshadowed San Antonio's only relevant decade
No. I hate the Lakers because of their dumbass fans. See my signature. Stupid s and frontrunners (lol @ the majority of you signing up here after the Gasol trade) make up the majority of the fanbase.
Are you sure you don't? All your threads/posts i've seen here from you revolve around Kobe and the Lakers. That's a pretty unhealthy obsession you have there..
I just thank Christ Artest made Pierce sorry.
the PER system is Hollinger's patented invention imho, which is only used to adjust his paranoid fondness for some players like Kobe, Lebron...
I just thank Christ Vuj center cut those two free throws.
No. I don't.
I just thank Christ that we're topsy & Mid is turvy.
Did you thank Christ when that little boy was unable to finger you in the lineup?
I just thank Christ for The Skunker.
I just thank Christ that "I can achieve tumescence" without pharmaceutical aid.
How's that working out for you?
Just wondering, who are the Laker fans that joined Spurstalk before Gasol got handed to them??
midnight, paddin' his search results for DeadlyDynasty
Not enough pages, son?
lol Neil Johnston
King of the peach basket!
lmcontrollinao!!!
How much in control can you really be if you can't control whether or not you get an erection?
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