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    Yeah right. The ing bum at the Valero that hits you up for change when you go in to get your 40? I'm sure he will be paying in.
    Sounds like you don't know what a public OPTION is...

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    That pissant "fine" for not buying healthcare? PLEEEEEZE.

    HEALTH CARE IS TOO DAMN GOOD AND TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE FOR EVERYONE TO GET CRADLE TO GRAVE CADILLAC HEALTH CARE. THERE ARE NEW EXPENSIVE TREATMENTS FOR VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING BEING INVENTED/RESEARCHED DAILY.

    It's that ing simple.

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    Sounds like you weren't listening to Obama when he said old people were going to have to get used to be given an aspirin and sent home. I was.

    That's your ing public OPTION.

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    Sounds like you weren't listening to Obama when he said old people were going to have to get used to be given an aspirin and sent home. I was.

    That's your ing public OPTION.
    LOL. You don't even know what you're railing against. You're all over the place.

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    LOL. You don't even know what you're railing against. You're all over the place.
    You don't know what you are advocating.

    Who PAYS for your cherished "public option"?

    I've got a pretty good idea from your previous ignorant posts that you figure it's in your best interest to support it since you think you won't be paying for it.

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    You don't know what you are advocating.

    Who PAYS for your cherished "public option"?

    I've got a pretty good idea from your previous ignorant posts that you figure it's in your best interest to support it since you think you won't be paying for it.
    How are prices set with your cherished "private option?"

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    How are prices set with your cherished "private option?"
    Uhhh...the ones that work and pay for health care get health care?

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    I can certainly understand how you guys would favor a public option where the "the gubment" (better known as other producing members of society) would pay for your health care.
    The govt doesn't pay for health care. Typical right wing lying.

    The govt taxes all income as insurance premiums to create a huge insurance pool to spread the gouging treatment costs. Sickos don't have to put off treatment (until it's unbearably worse and more expensive to treat) for want of money, don't have to worry about being destroyed/bankrupted by catastrophic illnesses, and docs and patients don't have to guess about and fight with insurance companies. A public option wouldn;t have entire departments and mgmt incentives to disqualify treatments, disqualify and cancel patients.

    But keep up your bull , there's plenty dumb s who believe it.

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    Yeah right. The ing bum at the Valero that hits you up for change when you go in to get your 40? I'm sure he will be paying in.
    You're paying 100s of $Bs for the homeless health care now provided by public health care centers, which are reimbursed by state and federal tax dollars.

    And private hospitals that take in under/non-paying patients recover their costs from the same public reimbursements and/or by overcharging insurance/paying patients.

    Keep up you lying bull , you seem to be infinitely full of it.

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    That pissant "fine" for not buying healthcare? PLEEEEEZE.

    HEALTH CARE IS TOO DAMN GOOD AND TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE FOR EVERYONE TO GET CRADLE TO GRAVE CADILLAC HEALTH CARE. THERE ARE NEW EXPENSIVE TREATMENTS FOR VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING BEING INVENTED/RESEARCHED DAILY.

    It's that ing simple.
    Many of the new drugs are worthless, and/or really no better than the generics they're trying to replace. And the side effects are often fatal or crippling or pathogenic. BigPharma is one of the biggest scams going.

    It's that ing simple.

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    Many of the new drugs are worthless, and/or really no better than the generics they're trying to replace. And the side effects are often fatal or crippling or pathogenic. BigPharma is one of the biggest scams going.

    It's that ing simple.
    You are probably right. Your meds clearly aren't working.

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    You are probably right. Your meds clearly aren't working.
    You should look into the scams he is talking about.

    1) Big money is made by creating new patent for new drugs. Once you get a new patent, even if it's a variation of an existing drug, or even if it only mildly improves on the last one, you get rich. Patients are sold this expensive treatment. Doctors are bribed to peddle them.

    2) Big money is made by keeping people on pills that prolong your life and improve your condition

    3) but no money is made by curing you.

    4) So, as a consequence, private corporate research dollars go into developing pills that improve, but do not cure.

    It's corporate waste.

    Spend precious resources like money and scientist manpower on developing better plastic packaging, but ignore humanity's real issues because there is no money to be made there.

    The pharmaceutical industry is no different.

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    You guys crack me up.

    The whole world is evil and conspiring against you.

    So what are YOU doing to save the world besides blowing out of your ass on a political forum?

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    The whole world is evil and conspiring against you.
    They aren't out to get anyone. They are out to get $$$.

    You have nothing real to say in response, apparently..

    History will look upon America's greedy system no different than any other in greedy, corrupt nation that has existed.

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    They aren't out to get anyone. They are out to get $$$.

    You have nothing real to say in response, apparently..

    History will look upon America's greedy system no different than any other in greedy, corrupt nation that has existed.
    There's a really easy way to beat that "evil drug company conspiracy" Tell your doctor or pharmacist that you want a generic equivalent. DUH!

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    I am not sure if you lack the knowledge about all of these topics.....or if you know it, and just don't care.

    How can a human be devoid of compassion and caring for others, for the well being of the world?

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    I am not sure if you lack the knowledge about all of these topics.....or if you know it, and just don't care.

    How can a human be devoid of compassion and caring for others, for the well being of the world?


    I'm not devoid of compassion, rather I am a realist. Theres things you can fix and things you can't. Give everyone in the US, housing, food, and healthcare whether they produce anything or not? Destroy any incentive for a work ethic and personal responsibility? Sheeeeut. Why stop there? How about Mexico? Central America? South America? , why stop there...Africa? Asia? The world is full of "needy" people. Where do you stop? I simply don't feel that those people are my responsibility.

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    Prove yourself to be the compassionate one, and do it with your money rather than other people's money. Get together like minded individuals and form a nonprofit charity. Have like minded people contribute. Just stay out of our pockets who choose a different way of being charitable. It takes away from what we want to do.

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    Sounds like you don't know what a public OPTION is...
    Sounds like you haven't figured out there's never going to be a public option...

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    Sounds like you haven't figured out there's never going to be a public option...
    Why do people think the free market be an option? Shouldn't it be the standard?

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    public option = no-profit govt universal health insurance, like medicare/medicaid/VA/govt employees

    private option = for-profit gouging as we have now.

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    public option = no-profit govt universal health insurance, like medicare/medicaid/VA/govt employees

    private option = for-profit gouging as we have now.
    So you support the communistic takeover of all free market activities then, right?

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    So you support the communistic takeover of all free market activities then, right?
    Extrapolate much?

    Maybe the free market works for certain things, and maybe it doesn't for other things. I gather that's not plausible to you, the free market fundamentalist?

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    So you support the communistic takeover of all free market activities then, right?
    Wrong again, WC. your straw man, you knock it down

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    Extrapolate much?

    Maybe the free market works for certain things, and maybe it doesn't for other things. I gather that's not plausible to you, the free market fundamentalist?
    On the contrary. I agree we need government for some activities. Health care works fine in the free market. Problem is, people want to turn it into a right when it's not. Making it a right allows justification to take other people's

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