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How about some Roosevelt?
Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.
- Theodore Roosevelt
Here are some good quotes
The Bank of the United States (1816-36), an early attempt at an American central bank, was abolished by President Andrew Jackson, who believed that it threatened the nation. He wrote: "The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government, the distress it had wantonly produced...are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this ins ution or the establishment of another like it."
Something a bit more current:
Georgetown professor Dr. Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton's mentor while at Georgetown) wrote about the goals of the investment bankers who control central banks: "... nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole... controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."
Last edited by MiamiHeat; 10-12-2010 at 06:24 PM.
How about some Roosevelt?
Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.
- Theodore Roosevelt
How about some Eisenhower?
The only way to fix this country is to remove the power in elections from the people/corporations who have all the $$$.
How about some Thomas Jefferson?
"The Central Bank is an ins ution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our Cons ution...if the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
- Thomas Jefferson
How about some Woodrow Wilson?
"A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men ... [W]e have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.
Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
- Woodrow Wilson
some John Adams :
All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Cons ution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.
- John Adams
No, because there are more liberals who break laws than conservatives. Agree or disagree, but that is how I see things. Remember also, I'm speaking liberal/conservative. Not democrat/republican.
"there are more liberals who break laws than conservatives"
hey, fullof , got any links? or do I have to my own research?
The Clintons left numerous dead people in their wake.
QE2 Means A Lower Dollar and Higher Gold Price
Ben Bernanke has no sure fire policy solution for economic stagnation. QE2, the $1 trillion quan ative easing expected, hoped for, prayed for, gossiped about, will only pour money into an economy that has no use for it. There is already $1.8 trillion cash on corporate balance sheets, $2 trillion cash in money market mutual funds and over $1 trillion reserves in commercial banks– a total of $4.8 trillion unused cash sitting silent. Creating no jobs, no consumer purchases.
The upshot will only drive down the dollar and drive up the price of gold, silver, platinum and other commodities. Thank David Rosenberg, the best informed, clearest thinker on Wall Street (Gluskin Sheff) for that strong sure view. Anyway, you missed the first 3% ride in commodities as the market began discounting QE2. last week.
QE2 will have a boomerang effect on the middle class. It will raise the price of wheat, sugar, coffee, poultry, beef, pork, raising their cost of living, reducing their disposable income. Just the opposite that Bernanke intends. Horrors!
http://blogs.forbes.com/robertlenzne...er-gold-price/
Dont fool yourself. Liberal/Conservative is still a failure. The color of money doesnt change.
Boutons, you are just as insistant on engaging in the partisan combat."there are more liberals who break laws than conservatives"
hey, fullof , got any links? or do I have to my own research?
The Clintons left numerous dead people in their wake.
Last edited by Parker2112; 10-12-2010 at 09:54 PM.
me, partisan? GFY
You are bound in partisan ties. You think the bad guys are conservative. The bad guys dont give a about repubs, repugs, neocons, etc. But they definitely want you to.
comprehensive history of Bankster's attempts/successes/oustings/repeated attempts/repeated successes at controlling our currency.
This was already posted in a previous thread, however many couldnt view on the previously posted link.
This is a VERY GOOD DISCUSSION of the history of banksters and our currency, and the battle that has been waged, which history has con uously swept away from our collective memory.
Precis:
"Banks who loan to the federal govt make over 1000% interest on the purchase of US debt, through Fractional Reserve Lending"
"Govt could issue money without such bank controlled debt money system, by controlling currency themselves."
"Politicians trying to reduce the national debt dont have a chance until they address the underlying problem: the debt money system"
"Otherwise they are trying to borrow their way out of debt"
"Bulk of money world-wide is created by commercial banks through debt money systems"
Monetary History:
England:
"Establishment of the Bank of England, where bankers gained control of the currency in 1694, meaning govt had to borrow its currency, and England suffered."
"Within 75 years, the debt had balloned to consume 3/4 of taxes to pay interest alone."
Colonies:
"Colonies issued Colonial Scrip. England began requiring payment in gold, and the Colonies hit depression."
"Stamp Act drove colonials to revolt, essentially removing the ability of the colonials to print their own money."
"Continental Currency was issued after independence, but Britan counterfieted it and flooded the supply."
"1781 Continental Congress had to do something, they turned to a Central Bank modeled after bank of England"
"Inflation went rampant, Bank was killed within 4 years."
"During war, typically inflation is rampant when quan y of money goes through the roof."
"1791, another deceptively named bank was given the reigns through a 20 year charter."
"Jefferson wanted to stop federal borrowing to implement currency."
"Bank's chartered was not renewed, and the bank was called a scam."
"1816, bankers came back wanting the right to print money again."
"2nd Bank of US was again established."
Attempted assassination on Jackson:
"Andrew Jackson ran to repeal the banks charter, which was being condemned by the people at that time, and he won."
"Jackson vetoed renewal of the charter of the Central Bank."
"Jackson was the subject of an attempted assination."
"At that time he gave stern warnings against ever going back to a centralized bank."
"Booms and busts are engineered to strip people of assets."
Abe Lincoln defies bankers, and dies:
"Abe Lincoln creates Greenbacks 25 years later."
"High financial powers of Europe, schemed successfully to split the nation to Civil War, to prevent any success with fiat money."
"Lincoln attempted assination on the way to inauguration."
"Another attempted assasination the next month."
"Lincoln created greenbacks to pay troops in a debt free manner."
"Lincoln was subsequently assinated."
"Bankers began to reassert their control over the currency, using currency retraction."
"Money panics after the civil war caused people to began to agree that centralized control was needed."
"Depression followed."
compare: from 07-08, 40% of the world's wealth was retracted.
during the great depression: 33% of the currency was retracted.
The point: these events are engineered.
@53:00
Garfield's Assassination:
"1877, American Bankers Association put together a plan to subvert govt and media to stop a return to greenbacks."
"1878 election, 21 independents were elected as Greenbackers"
"James Garfield, in 1881, publicly slams banksters as the cause of boom/bust cycles."
"Within a few weeks, he is assassinated."
"1894 ABA schemes to trigger a depression and take 2/3's of the mortgaged farms east of the mississippi."
"unemployment goes up 600%"
"thousands of farms are foreclosed upon"
"William Jennings Bryan (the Lion) champions silver as a way to undo the stranglehold of gold based currency."
"ABA schemes to divide the population over tariffs, while they focus on keeping a stranglehold on currency."
"Bryan condemns the gold standard, as a crown of thorns upon the brow of labor."
@1:10
"Woodrow Wilson was backed by bankers, and eventually passed the Federal Reserve Act."
Last edited by Parker2112; 10-13-2010 at 09:59 AM.
Bottom Line of the film:
Its not what you use to back your currency, it is who controls the currency that counts.
Bankers want to control currency to make interest off of the issuance at an astronomical amount.
Whats more, when bankers control the currency, not only do they make interest off of every dollar that enters circulation, but they can manipulate the amount of $ in circulation to engineer booms and busts, and during busts the retraction of $ supply moves wealth from citizens to banks through debt colection/foreclosure.
Govts can just as easily control issuance through a govt agency, with no need to borrow, and with the boom/bust cycle eliminated the citizens and the economy can maintain optimal levels of productivity with prudent issuance.
A classic example of WC at his biased best. Throws out a "fact" without any data, then says "agree or disagree" to cover his own bias.
WC knows he can't back up theta t but tries to state his opinion as if it were assumed true.
devalue the US currency does jack to solve ur economic problems...
USA doesnt manufacture goods when most of the is outsouce into china...
the only thing you clowns are selling are weapons, even that is not enough to fund ur economy...
Dont know where you're at, but this is a world-wide phenomena. There is a very good chance your country is doing it as well.
Limited view of it, for sure. What you fail to account for is "Who buys all the world's ?"
Thats the US. Without the USA consuming China's/India's/Mexico's exports, those countries are finito, as well.
...which is why China is trying to dissuade the US from devaluing our currency.
My point has always been that devaluing our currency will make imports more expensive, our exports cheaper to the rest of the world, and return manufacturing jobs here.
Take a poll sometime of the prison population. Liberal vs. conservative.
WC knows he can't back up theta t but tries to state his opinion as if it were assumed true.
Returns manufacturing jobs at 3rd world wages. $15 dollars an hour after inflation could be worse than the current minimum wage.
Anyone else here see the connection between [control of our currency] and [political assassinations]?
I see that one flew over your Cuckoo nest.
You fail to see what happens when world currency rates change.
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