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hey guys sorry i dont know if this has beenposted, but do you think the new rule will sffect the spurs more? (Timmy, Manu, Pop etc)
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http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...wFullArticle=ySpurs notebook: Hill's tech a teaching tool
By Jeff McDonald
“We've been calling techs all through camp in scrimmages,” said Popovich, a fan of the new rule. “Now the players believe us.”
...Popovich said he was happy Bavetta called what could have been a game-altering technical, calling it “a teaching moment.”
The strip by Hill on Gordon was clean as far as I could tell from the 1 or 2 replays they showed during the broadcast. A great defensive play by George negated by a bad call, and then exacerbated by a tech that GH3 clearly earned with his antics.
I agree that Hill's reaction was a definitely over-the-top (if not justified). Even though it was good natured, it was still a big and flamboyant reaction, and I guess they felt it was enough to let the outcome of the game hang on it.
That being said, there were plenty of occasions earlier in the game where players either disputed or specifically waved off fouls or officials. That's supposed to be the same call. Tim even had a couple of his usual "That's a foul!" moments, one while shoving his defender, and that didn't even draw the ire of the refs.
I'm fine with this new rule as long as it is consistent. But I absolutely do not like it if you are going to let guys get away with it all game long, then wait for the game's deciding moments to decide to make an example out of somebody.
Did anybody see Tommy Heinsohn's reaction to the refs tonight?..classic..
I wonder how Timmy is going to hold up with this new BS officiating
heat are in trouble
More like whoever is playing them is in trouble. Heat will get the calls, its up to the teams playing them to keep composure with all the expected BS that's going to happen.
There is no way you gonna get consistant calls this season.
The refs will be calling subjectivly and also with the flow of the game.
There will be more distactions in game and more discusssion about the whistles.
Game of NBA will not be a game of emotions ?
Heck what?
Is there still a limit to how many techs you can have before you get suspended? I thought it was 15... look for suspensions coming to the usual's unless they changed the ruling.
Woj weighs in:
NBA whistles while its players work
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports 5 hours, 10 minutes ago
NEW YORK – The fans wanted this, the NBA emperor tells everyone. David Stern tosses out some vague claim of market research to demand of his players what the commissioner has never demanded of himself: a control of his temper, the grace to react instantly to the incompetence of his officials with a robotic restraint.
That’s the irony: NBA employees have long described Stern’s private disposition as something that could make Rasheed Wallace(notes) blush with embarrassment. Nevertheless, Stern delivers a desperate mandate that does nothing but try to cover the flaws of his referees and remind the rank-and-file union members they’re ultimately under his control in this labor fight, ultimately at the mercy of his whim.
Just beyond the shadows of the NBA’s Olympic Tower Wednesday night at Madison Square Garden, Boston’s Jermaine O’Neal(notes) drew his second technical in two nights for moderately reacting to a referee’s foul call. Kevin Garnett(notes) was given a technical moments later for trying to show an official how a New York Knicks player had hit him, and was then ejected for laughing over the legitimacy of that tech.
Finally, the Knicks’ Timofey Mozgov(notes) muttered to himself in Russian, and these lost, young referees carrying out orders teed him up, too.
“These new rules are very, very excessive,” O’Neal told Yahoo! Sports before the game. “They’re telling us the general public says we whine too much, but look at the way the NBA’s business is growing globally. I can see both sides of this. No one wants to see complaining over every call, but look at the rules. You can’t even make a hand gesture – never mind say anything.
“It’s going to be interesting to see the first two weeks of the season and how all this slows the pace.”
The biggest stars can be some of the NBA’s most emotional gripers, and they ought dare Stern and his refs to start tossing them out of regular season games. The league office loves to bully, but never has the stomach for a true fight. Let’s see how fast the public repudiates the NBA and this false premise born of phony market research.
Dare these officials, dare Stern, to reward what will be the toughest opening-night ticket ever – and the biggest TV audience – with ejections in the Boston-Miami game. Go ahead and dare them to toss LeBron James(notes) and Dwyane Wade(notes), Rajon Rondo(notes) and Garnett. Go ahead and challenge Stern the way he’s challenged them. The commissioner has increased the fines on ejections too, and two players agents told Yahoo! Sports they hope the union contests the legality of it within the collective bargaining agreement.
“The message we’re getting is that this is about cleaning up the perceptions of the NBA,” O’Neal said. “We never really know the reasons. We’re just a product out there that gets the memos.”
The NBA has gone out of its way to bring writers into preseason seminars with the officials, to get them to buy into the idea there’s so much behavior that needs to be curbed. It’s a load of garbage, but then again, no one runs a propaganda machine like the NBA. These new guidelines for technical fouls should be here to eliminate the likes of ’Sheed’s old act, and yet this has turned into a preseason where Grant Hill(notes) earned an ejection for slapping an opponent’s behind.
On a list of 100 desires of the NBA fan, enacting this edict probably falls somewhere in the top 150. The fans? What they want is competent ownership and management. In perpetual losing markets, they want to be rid of Donald Sterling and Glen Taylor, George Shinn and Michael Heisley. They don’t want to be told that a man from Oklahoma bought the Sonics to keep them in Seattle, only to have it proven to be a lie – and still never hear the commissioner acknowledge it.
Fans want a chance to believe in so many of these small markets, and Stern gives them David Kahn as a GM.
The commissioner is losing a grip on a younger, brasher generation of owners, and losing the respect of his players. Once, the players saw Stern as a kind of Don, a Godfather they had to respect. Once, they saw him as the commissioner of the NBA. Over time, he became just the commissioner of the owners. This is one more show of muscle for a commissioner who’s never had less within his sport.
In an email, one veteran Eastern Conference player told me, “What’s going to happen next is that people are going to keep going with this [bleep] about how we don’t care, or don’t play hard … because we’re running around like a bunch of robots. We can’t win with this thing.”
Yes, referees should give techs to players who overreact. But now you get a technical for reacting. That’s an immense difference, and there’s no majority of NBA fans anywhere who ever demanded these changes from the league. This way, the league never has to address the putrid nature of its officiating. If players aren’t reacting to bad calls, they must not have been bad calls. San Antonio Spurs guard George Hill(notes) made a clean strip on the Los Angeles Clippers’ Eric Gordon(notes) in the final minute of a one-point game on Tuesday, got called for a foul and reacted in a natural, expressive twinge of frustration. He drew a tech, and it nearly cost the Spurs a game.
“With the nature of human error being involved with the officials, guys are going to react when it’s a bad call,” O’Neal said.
On the night that Amar’e Stoudemire(notes) scored 30 points in his Knicks debut at the Garden, everyone will remember one of these frightened young officials, Kane Fitzgerald, following orders and tossing Garnett because the Celtics star actually tried to care about a preseason game. Don’t blame Fitzgerald, because the idea of making an example of someone of K.G.’s stature comes straight out of Olympic Tower, straight out of an agenda that has nothing to do with the wants of the fans, nor the good of the game.
This is pure politics and posturing, the last stand of a commissioner who refuses to let the beginnings of a historic season breathe. The NBA fans wanted this, Stern says, and all those yes-men surrounding him in midtown Manhattan assuredly gave the commissioner one more standing ovation.
Just understand, David Stern is the max-out NBA star who’d never survive a day on the job with his new rules, who’s asking of his sport something he’d never, ever ask of himself: restraint and grace.
people really need to start getting together to hit david stern where it hurts ya know the only thing that matters to him in life MONEY!!!!! if people strike certain games and follow through you better believe stern will change the rules.
this rule to me is targeted towards african americans and euro players because thats part of what happens when your passionate about the game in these cultures. sorry if i offend anyone but im being very honest
you're an adorable race baiter as well.
I agree, I wonder how many games Lebron or Kobe will be thrown out. None, becuase this rule wont apply to these players I'm betting.
Funny thing about these special treatment players though is that they are the biggest violators of this rule.
Stern is a little imp. He does not care about the history of the game or its integrity. He does not care about a level playing field between all franchises. All he cares about is money, and he thinks that the league will generate more of it through hype (extolling star matchups, big franchise face-offs), player image (dress code, over-reprimanding foul calls and techs), and fake campaigns (NBA Cares photo ops, meaningless overseas preseason games). Stern's agenda does a frank disservice to true basketball fans and instead polishes the NBA's fool's gold bright enough to entice the casual fan. Stern may have brought more attention to the game overseas, but The NBA is actually thought of as entertainment in Europe, not legitimate sport.
The NBA could be such a pure product if the NBA had a Commissioner who would "revert" to a simple principle: game integrity. Power needs to be taken from the referees pure and simple. They are crooked, biased company men. And have a system that gives all franchises equal opportunities and a level playing field. Coaches and players should be able to speak freely; honesty should never be discouraged or penalized. It's no surprise Stern fines opinion, truths, and reactions from players and coaches.
In general, a fan is too casual/stupid/oblivious to care or notice the many problems with the NBA, or he/she is aware of it but overlooks it because of love for the game. I'm never going to stop buying Spurs season tickets though. I love watching the players and their incredible athleticism (not talking bout Matt Bonner here). But at some point even basketball geeks are going to be too turned off to tune in, and that's occurred with many folks I know.
ing Stern. I hate him.
Last edited by superbigtime; 10-14-2010 at 10:12 AM.
what a great line!
I dont think so, if what you are saying is true, then the tech foul rule is targeted @ like 90% of all players.
I think, per the usual, that Wojnarowski is right on the money here.
seriously, someone make a facebook group and let's add some ppl to tell stern his market research is BS.
This is a stupid change to the rule. Yeah, it gets annoying to see players complain, but the refs are going to completely use this to their advantage and call every single one of these out there.
well, the Fb thing worked on the new Gap logo, they trashed it within one week because of the Fb outcryseriously, someone make a facebook group and let's add some ppl to tell stern his market research is BS.
It's really too bad that the NBA is doing this, because everyone that's ever watched basketball knows that a player crying about every whistle vastly improves the quality of the officiating.
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