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    Which makes the Spurs' 4 all the more impressive.
    No, they're actually worth the same thing...in fact, one could argue that never defending their le diminished the Spurs' accomplishments

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    No, they're actually worth the same thing...in fact, one could argue that never defending their le diminished the Spurs' accomplishments
    I don't think you understand my point, and I didn't say they were "worth" more. The Spurs won 4 in 9 years in a comparatively small market, under budget, in the same decade where their biggest compe ion was a very large market team with a spendthrift owner.

    Why do you Lakerboys take everything as a personal affront? I'm not diminishing the Lakers' accomplishments. Not many teams have won b2bs in this league and that is a great accomplishment, but you could argue that 4/9 ain't that easy either.

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    RJ is a bit inconsistent me thinks.

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    This how these threads always go: "RJ sucks! I hate RJ! He's a bad fit! Bad contract! 4 years! He will never be what the Spurs need him to be! The Spurs will never win with RJ as the SF!"

    Then comes the caveat: ". . . but, I really hope he proves me wrong . . . I hope RJ improves and can help the team. The Spurs success depends on RJ doing well. I love the Spurs."

    or get off the pot, you schizophrenic, bi-polar morons.
    If you don't love RJ you don't love the Spurs

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    If you don't love RJ you don't love the Spurs
    I was born without a sarcasm detector and I have no concept of the use of hyperbole for the purpose of humor.

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    I think this forum has awesome homer fans as well as haters. Just my honest opinion (but I'm drunk)

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    lol humor/sarcasm cop out.

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    lol no comprehension skills

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    I think this forum has awesome homer fans as well as haters. Just my honest opinion (but I'm drunk)
    at 2:00 in the afternoon on a Thursday?

    Well done, Dr...

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    The difference between Mighty Mouse and RJ was Mighty Mouse was a one trick pony, as far scoring goes, wheres RJ can shoot from the outside as well as take it to the hole. Why would the Spurs have RJ completely rebuild his shooting form over the Summer and not want him to shoot more? Should Pop just tell RJ, "don't shoot unless you absolutely have to"? Plus alot of players play harder on defense if their offense is rolling. If RJ could improve on the offensive end, how could it not make a difference for the Spurs to have a 4th or 5th scoring option? It would lower the double teams on Duncan, Giniboli, Parker, etc... if defenders have to at least be aware of RJ on offense.
    No, the difference is that Stoudamire was a good shooter and facilitator before getting that ridiculous instruction. Pop started throwing that around to guys thinking they were suddenly going to scrore more points because they were relaxed, but being yelled at for not taking a shot is no less stressful than being yelled at for taking a shot, so shooting percentages don't go up.

    The Spurs' offense used to be to look for the most high percentage shot and to take as much time as necessary to do it. Pop now has them taking the first shot that's open, which is usually far from the basket and partially defended. And no, none of these guys are playing harder on defense after getting the "shoot if you're open" command.

    RJ has a number of ways he can help on offense. Shooting the ball from outside each and every time he's open ain't one of them.

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    lol no comprehension skills
    Whatever you say loverboy.

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    Why don't you guys take your little lol back and forth to PM so the rest of us don't have to be involved?

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    Whatever you say loverboy.
    You wish, closet case.

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    I don't think you understand my point, and I didn't say they were "worth" more. The Spurs won 4 in 9 years in a comparatively small market, under budget, in the same decade where their biggest compe ion was a very large market team with a spendthrift owner.

    Why do you Lakerboys take everything as a personal affront? I'm not diminishing the Lakers' accomplishments. Not many teams have won b2bs in this league and that is a great accomplishment, but you could argue that 4/9 ain't that easy either.
    There's nothing personal about it, bro. I hype my team and you hype yours...tis the nature of rival fans. I respect SA for the 4/9, but in no way do I think it's any greater than what the Lakers have accomplished this past 10-11 years. We both can make cases for our respective sides, but neither one of us is going to convert the other

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    Why don't you guys take your little lol back and forth to PM so the rest of us don't have to be involved?
    Not my fault. He's the one that can't stop thinking about me.

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    Not my fault. He's the one that can't stop thinking about me.
    Alright, this is getting a little weird now. I am willing to call a truce . . . agree to disagree? Or, we can keep this up . . . your call, Bennie.

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    There's nothing personal about it, bro. I hype my team and you hype yours...tis the nature of rival fans. I respect SA for the 4/9, but in no way do I think it's any greater than what the Lakers have accomplished this past 10-11 years. We both can make cases for our respective sides, but neither one of us is going to convert the other
    That's cool. I just get a kick out of imagining Captain Beefheart and Tom Waits discussing basketball.

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    Actually you called me...but a truce is fine.

    Let us proceed.

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    That's cool. I just get a kick out of imagining Captain Beefheart and Tom Waits discussing basketball.
    The piano's been drinking for sure...

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    RJ has a number of ways he can help on offense. Shooting the ball from outside each and every time he's open ain't one of them.
    true. the thing RJ has to do is become a threat from distance because that opens up his driving game and spaces the floor for others. he doesn't have to take it every time he's open. if he shows he can hit the three with consistency, it'll allow him to do what he is best at, which is drive the ball and go the line and get opposing bigs in foul trouble. problem is that he virtually has no space to be effective at that because people aren't, justifiably, respecting his three.

    it'll be amazing how much a difference in RJ we'll see if he can prove to be a threat from three. not on;y will it make him a three point threat, it'll allow him to drive. he's severely inhibited out there by his inability to be a threat from outside.

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    Actually you called me...but a truce is fine.

    Let us proceed.
    Semantics . . . last word . . . truce it is!

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    Here's something we all can agree on.

    If Jefferson can play like (see below) more consistently whenever he receives the few touches he actually gets, he will improve the Spurs chances at the le immensely.

    This is the aggression the Spurs need out of Jefferson more consistently. And this aggression that Jefferson showed at times last season is why some of us believe he has the chance to improve from a consistency standpoint. He has this ability. Now what is preventing him from being this player on a more consistent basis? Touches? Confidence? Hopefully it's neither going into this new season.




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    Man, they were so good in that series. What the happened?

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    There's a group of posters who incessantly ed about Mahinmi. There's a group who incessantly ed about d-league players not getting enough minutes. There's a group of posters who always find something about Pop to about. There's a group who is obsessed with Bonner and brings him up in every thread. And there's a group whose new hobby is to on RJ every chance they get.

    It's not surprising that all those groups are actually the same group. The usual group of posters will find something to about. They'll follow each other around and jerk each other off to "we hate RJ," "we hate bonner," and "we aren't happy with Pop's rotations" threads. Surprise, surprise.

    When all you do is it makes it difficult to finding meaning in your ing, even when you do have a legitimate gripe.

    And thanks for the insight, australian Spurs fan.

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    at 2:00 in the afternoon on a Thursday?

    Well done, Dr...
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