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Do you want to be proven correct?
Okay, so I've been ing about RJ for most of this year and I'm not the only one. I feel bad about it because I still really love the Spurs, but this guy just s me to tears. I think the thing that pains me most is that he could've been a 15mil expiring contract at the deadline, instead he's overpaid deadwood that we're unlikely to move, and who has locked up the SF position with mediocrity for at least 3 years. Ugh.
Anyway, I hope he proves me wrong, but I felt like we RJ-haters (not 'hate' in the literal sense, but in the 'fan on the internet' sense) needed somewhere to gather, vent our spleens, and then point to in vindication when we're proven correct. Righteous indignation is minor compensation for the fact that he hurts and re s our team, but it's something.
Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 10-13-2010 at 01:09 AM.
Do you want to be proven correct?
Sure does seem like it.
No, I don't, as I clearly spelled out. Please improve your reading comprehension. But I am unfortunately probably right. We shall see.
BTW, you should play roto with us! Give it a go.
Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 10-13-2010 at 01:55 AM.
I don't hate RJ. I don't even think he doesn't try. He's what he is, and unfortunately, so far I've seen no indication that he's what the Spurs need.
And that's why I 'hate' him (once again: in the internet fan sense, not the want-to-ritually-disembowel-him-and-frolic-in-his-entrails sense).
Why re-sign him for 4 years when he's clearly "[not] what the Spurs need."
Yeah shoulda clearly let him go and started Alonzo Gee.
Would've been a huge move twords winning it all.
Although I didn't say that, did I?
Re-read the OP and get back to me when you actually think about it.
So, your idea is that we should have used his 15 Mil expiring to acquire a replacement wing via a trade, is this correct?
If so, who pays the luxury tax this season and the next?
Let's see what peja's expiring will fetch at the deadline.
im nervous too im not gonna lie, but what can we do now? we have to wait and im sure if pop can trade his ass if he can get a productive SF starter. thats if he doesnt pull through 4 us (lets give him some more time) but we cant start these threads already man!
yes i know its been a year but its not like he avrg. 0pts a game and 1 rebound c'mon i say lets wait until december and if not by then well... james anderson has to turn into the #1 pick for us haha
You really feel you didn't have any other place to vent?
The spurs also could have just bit the bullet, ownership can afford to pay the tax one solitary year. Not like there aren't a plethora of teams (11 others) doing so.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/02/19/1...ay-luxury-tax/
even Robert Sarver is on the pay list lol. And here we have the spurs who's ownership would rather mortgage the next 3 years rather than bite the bullet for 1.
How do you know the Spurs could afford to bite the bullet and pay more than $7 mil in lux tax, $7 mil more for RJ's old salary, while missing out on ~$3 mil from tax redistribution? We're talking about 17 million dollars for this season.
You don't know if they could afford it.In fact, every evidence points to the conclusion that they could not.
To be honest, that wasn't your original post, I fooled around a little when the original wasn't updated before I replied without hitting the refresh button, and I don't remember seeing that sentence until now. My reply was a minute after your edit, which is why I didn't see it. If it was already there, my apologies.No, I don't, as I clearly spelled out. Please improve your reading comprehension. But I am unfortunately probably right. We shall see.
BTW, you should play roto with us! Give it a go.
As of now, I am quite tied down and probably can't run 3 fantasy teams with the semester looming. Sorry, got to decline. If there is a spot next season, let me know.
It's the ing pre-season for crying out loud. Let's reopen this thread 10-15 games into the season, shall we?
i'm giving myself a 10 games into the season threshold for RJ. if there's no improvement 10 games into the season, i don't think it'll ever work out for him and the Spurs.
that said i'm confident that his summer working on his jumpshot will pay off.
They could have (should have) let Bonner walk (he's a 5th spare big anyway) and saved 5 mil in salary/tax.
The spurs could have easily given that 5th big spot to Gist or Cousins.
Is mortgaging the next 3 years really worth saving 12 million in one year?
I don't know, apparently the answer is yes.
It's not like the Spurs would have been able to get someone better than RJ if they let his contract expire, so they wouldn't be better from a basketball standpoint anyway. Don't know what you mean by mortgaging the next 3 years.
Richard Jefferson 2010 2011 2012 2013
$8,400,000 $9,282,000 $10,164,000 $11,046,000
2013 is a long ways away, and its pretty much gauranteed RJ will take that player option. If things don't work out as planned the spurs are stuck with him for 3 more years. That's what I mean.
But Holt will save a few mil this year so its all good apparently.
Everyone read that, it's just a weak excuse so you can "self-righteously" claim what you just said.
We all know this is so you and whoever chooses to join you can enjoy blurting out i told you so's to the spur fans who, throughout the season, hope he does well and choose to look at the positives instead of negatives (while you no doubt and complain about him the majority of the time just so you can feel ... what? right?).
It's rather interesting how you call it the RJ-haters club. Immediately going with the extremely negative approach. You've even managed to convince yourself there's a "politically correct" form of 'hate.'
Indeed.
It's easy to spend someone else's millions, though.
What's the value of the team since poor Holt bought the Spurs?
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