Who would you cut after this game? - Cavs game edition

[DPG21920]

No. You pretty much wrote off the entire season because our scrubs played like scrubs. You want an NBA scrub to not be a scrub and are throwing up your hands because it hasn't happened in the maximum two games you have been able to watch this preseason.

Massive failure. I even specifically said the "main guys" are fine. I said this is a thread about fringe players and if they all got cut it would make no difference to me.

You want to say people suck, but get mad about it in a thread where someone is asking which sucky player you want to cut .

Because they are scrubs. They were scrubs before they joined the team, and they are scrubs now. Anderson is an exception, but he's also coming off an injury. My expectations for scrubs and players coming off injury just don't seem to be as high as yours.

Not really. Other scrubs can be had if it comes to that.

What expectations? You seem really good at inventing arguments, but really sucky at sticking to the thread topic, which is about whom someone wants cut from the team.

I simply said the Spurs were hoping that one of the scrubs would have impressed enough to fill a perceived void from within. At this point, it does not seem likely. Does that change anything majorly? No. Is it disappointing? To myself and a few others. Sure.

Quit acting like I was cliff jumping. That would be like me saying you are getting furious over this particular subject just to make you look foolish, when we both know that is not true.

Sure, other scrubs could be had, but that would not fill the void. The Spurs don't need a scrub. They need a rotational player.

[DPG21920]

Sweet.

Neither did I, so I'm not going to claim to know who looked good or bad in that particular preseason game.

I did? I said that after what I have seen, I would cut them all and be ok with it. If you could link to where I said I saw the game and made a judgment, I will certainly apologize.

I posted in this thread on the subject of cutting players, but I never implied or said I watched this game.

[DPG21920]

I learned that the Spurs' scrubs really are scrubs.

You posted this comment in the Cavs game day thread. Did you watch the game? So how can you claim to know who looked like a scrub and who did not in this particular preseason game you did not see?

This is curious.

[ChumpDumper]

Massive failure. I even specifically said the "main guys" are fine. I said this is a thread about fringe players and if they all got cut it would make no difference to me.

You want to say people suck, but get mad about it in a thread where someone is asking which sucky player you want to cut .

But your claim is that the backup SF spot is critical to this team's success this year, and you have written off every candidate for that spot after not watching several preseason games.

You can try to take both sides of the argument, but don't be surprised when you fail.

What expectations? You seem really good at inventing arguments, but really sucky at sticking to the thread topic, which is about whom someone wants cut from the team.

I clearly said I didn't see the game, so I wouldn't make that judgment. Now you want to be forum cop since other things have been brought up and isn't going well for you. Neat.

I simply said the Spurs were hoping that one of the scrubs would have impressed enough to fill a perceived void from within. At this point, it does not seem likely. Does that change anything majorly? No. Is it disappointing? To myself and a few others. Sure.

So it's not critical? I guess it will be the next time it suits you.

Quit acting like I was cliff jumping. That would be like me saying you are getting furious over this particular subject just to make you look foolish, when we both know that is not true.

Ok. Not cliff jumping.

Not critical.

Not watching.

Got it.

[DPG21920]

I clearly said I didn't see the game, so I wouldn't make that judgment. Now you want to be forum cop since other things have been brought up and isn't going well for you. Neat.

Really? Then how on Earth can you post that you learned the Spurs scrubs are scrubs in the Cavs game day thread?

Is this really that important to you? Is is it so important you have to try and play both sides of the argument?

[ChumpDumper]

I did? I said that after what I have seen, I would cut them all and be ok with it. If you could link to where I said I saw the game and made a judgment, I will certainly apologize.

I posted in this thread on the subject of cutting players, but I never implied or said I watched this game.

So based on all that you haven't watched, you'd cut them all.

Personally, I concluded there was a lot of play I hadn't seen. I don't see why that can't bee seen as a valid take.

[DPG21920]

The back up SF spot is critical (or at least getting a wing that is an above average perimeter defender).

Is not having one of the scrubs brought in pan out critical? No. There are other ways to address the issue.

The fact you can't understand this and the fact you want to make judgments on the scrubs in a game you did not watch is all on you.

From the Cavs v. Spurs Game Thread:

I learned that the Spurs' scrubs really are scrubs.

[DPG21920]

So based on all that you haven't watched, you'd cut them all.

Personally, I concluded there was a lot of play I hadn't seen. I don't see why that can't bee seen as a valid take.

What do you mean what I haven't watched. I am basing mine of the scrimmage, and 2 preseason games I personally watched.

Why is the fact I missed this one game such a big deal to you?

[ChumpDumper]

Really? Then how on Earth can you post that you learned the Spurs scrubs are scrubs in the Cavs game day thread?

It was more a reinforcement of a previous impression. I didn't expect anyone to really stand out statistically in that situation.

I was right.

Woo-hoo.

Is this really that important to you? Is is it so important you have to try and play both sides of the argument?

That was my question to you.

[ChumpDumper]

What do you mean what I haven't watched. I am basing mine of the scrimmage, and 2 preseason games.

Why is the fact I missed this one game such a big deal to you?

Your inability to keep track of the number of preseason games played is noted.

[DPG21920]

It was more a reinforcement of a previous impression. I didn't expect anyone to really stand out statistically in that situation.

I was right.

Woo-hoo.

That was my question to you.

I know. I was pointing out your hypocrisy.

Mine is a reinforcement of previous impressions along with a scrimmage and 2 preseason games I have watched. How does this make my comments less valid than yours?

[DPG21920]

Your inability to keep track of the number of preseason games played is noted.

I have watched the scrimmage and the HOU and the CLIPS game. You are harping on missing this one game in particular.

Your attempts to argue, while at the same time doing the same things you argue against is noted.

[ChumpDumper]

I know. I was pointing out your hypocrisy.

Mine is a reinforcement of previous impressions along with a scrimmage and 2 preseason games I have watched. How does this make my comments less valid than yours?

I freely admit I haven't watched enough to make a judgment.

You said you could get rid of them all sight unseen this past game.

Is it safe to say if some numbers in the boxscore were different, so would your opinion? I would likely say they are all still scrubs, unless it was Anderson for the reason I already mentioned. That's preseason basketball.

[DPG21920]

You didn't freely admit it, because you said you found out the scrubs were scrubs. If you didn't watch enough to make a judgment, well, then you wouldn't have made the following judgment:

I learned that the Spurs' scrubs really are scrubs.

I said this past game? Link? I said based on everything I have seen & read, no one has stood out at the position of need and that cutting them all would have no impact on this team.

This box score has virtually no bearing on anything. If someone would have scored 40 points, it would have stood out, but would not have meant anything to me overall (although it would have certainly caught my attention) because the thing I am looking for (perimeter defense) is not available in the box score.

Again, the team says they need a defensive SF. They brought in some scrubs hoping one would stand out enough to help. None have. Based on the games I have seen, cutting them all would have no effect and I would not be mad because it seems they will need to look else where to fill the need.

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't freely admit it, because you said you found out the scrubs were scrubs. If you didn't watch enough to make a judgment, well, then you wouldn't have made the following judgment:

I could also say I "learned" they were currently under contract for the Spurs. If you like that kind of thing, I could list more.

I said this past game? Link? I said based on everything I have seen & read, no one has stood out at the position of need and that cutting them all would have no impact on this team.

Also everything you haven't seen. It's cool to have an opinion.

This box score has virtually no bearing on anything. If someone would have scored 40 points, it would have stood out, but would not have meant anything to me because the thing I am looking for (perimeter defense) is not available in the box score.

So how can you tell anything about perimeter defense in the two games you didn't watch?

Again, the team says they need a defensive SF. They brought in some scrubs hoping one would stand out enough to help. None have. Based on the games I have seen, cutting them all would have no effect and I would not be mad because it seems they will need to look else where to fill the need.

You would cut Anderson right now?

I wouldn't.

I think he has been penciled in as the backup SF pretty much since he was drafted.

[Muser]

Anderson is gonna be great for this team. Just give the kid some time.

[DesignatedT]

lol calm down guys. We have a long season ahead of us

[DPG21920]

No. I would not cut Anderson. If you notice in the post where I listed the guys I would cut, Anderson was not included.

Anderson is different compared to the others. He is a draft pick, a high draft pick for the Spurs and the NBA is new to him.

The others have all had time to develop. They all suck pretty much.

I agree that based on the fact Anderson has been played at the SF all preseason, he is penciled in there. That does not mean I think he will fill the perceived void (above average SF defensive player).

I think he has other tools, or at least the ability to stick. I have not seen enough of him to say one way or the other, but he is the only one I feel deserves a chance. The rest have been out of college and working on their games.

So when I say (and list out) whom I would cut, I don't feel there is anything wrong with it.

[ChumpDumper]

Well if Anderson is already the backup SF, why is midpreseason scrub development so crucial to you?

[DPG21920]

I would ask you the same question because you said the same thing I did:

"They all suck."

Do you not read what I wrote? Just because he is already penciled in, does not mean I think he fills the void.

I personally still think a trade is necessary, even with Anderson on the team. I think it is important because it is an obvious need. Everyone thinks it is important.

You do realize I am in a thread about this topic you are asking about, along with you? It is a thread. I commented.

Quit acting like no one is watching or commenting on this issue . You silly bas .

Also, to answer your question, if you read what I posted, I mentioned games I have seen and what I have read. So based on what I have read, for the games that were not televised, I was able to somewhat get an understanding that no one was standing out.

[ChumpDumper]

I would ask you the same question because you said the same thing I did:

"They all suck."

Only you would be fine with closing the book on each and every player right now.

Do you not read what I wrote? Just because he is already penciled in, does not mean I think he fills the void.

You really thought one of these scrubs had a chance of beating out Anderson for the backup SF spot?

As I said, differing expectations.

I personally still think a trade is necessary, even with Anderson on the team.

Great.

You do realize I am in a thread about this topic you are asking about, along with you? It is a thread. I commented.

Yes, I realize this. Did you somehow think I didn't realize you are in a thread? What makes you think something like that.

Quit acting like no one is watching or commenting on this issue.

It is the actual comments that provide midpreseason entertainment.

[DPG21920]

I learned that the Spurs' scrubs really are scrubs.

I still don't know how you can learn this from a game you did not watch? Is it safe to assume a change in the box score would have changed what you learned?

I can see this topic is very important to you. I can see you are becoming enraged. I can see you really care a lot about the fringe players because you are screaming you have learned they sucked in a game you did not even see.

So I will exit the thread about whom one would like to cut, where I made a comment on the subject, because this is so important to you.

[DPG21920]

You really thought one of these scrubs had a chance of beating out Anderson for the backup SF spot?

Link? I said no one has stood out. I said it is disappointing. No where did I say I expected these guys to pan out. In fact, I have been pretty vocal on the exact opposite.

[DPG21920]

For real. I'm gone now.

[ChumpDumper]

I still don't know how you can learn this from a game you did not watch? Is it safe to assume a change in the box score would have changed what you learned?

You still don't understand the nature of the statement.

That's ok.

I can see this topic is very important to you. I can you are becoming enraged. I can see you really care a lot about the fringe players because you are screaming you have learned they sucked in a game you did not even see.

As I said. I learned nothing. Scrubs are scrubs. I'm willing to actually see more of them if that is possible the next couple of games.

So I will exit the thread about whom one would like to cut, where I made a comment on the subject, because this is so important to you.

You are free to do whatever you want -- including running away, if that is what you are indeed doing at this point. It's really not that big a deal. After all, it's preseason.