Fifteen Bad Things with Windpower–and Three Reasons Why

[Wild Cobra]

fyp

Still lying and slandering rather than being intelligent enough to win with facts.

I pity you.

[MannyIsGod]

Its only slander if its not true. You don't think the woman you stalked would call you nuts?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I ing hate elitists.

This is not surprising consider you have probably been selected last for most everything from your very first social interactions outside of your family.

You are common in just about every sense of the word.

[Wild Cobra]

Its only slander if its not true. You don't think the woman you stalked would call you nuts?

See, there you go. I never stalked the girl I was referring to, nor have I ever stalked someone as the word implies.

You're just a pitiful, slanderous liar. You might fool others, but I know the facts on this topic. Who was there? You or me?

Here you go again diverting a topic rather than having any small portion of capacity to address your point of view with facts.

If you have relevant facts, I'm all ears. Here I though we finally started a rational debate, but you turn to BS. Everyone see's you are incapable of debating me on such a topic, and everyone sees your hatred of me in having to resort in slander, lies, and propaganda.

Admit it. You cannot dispute what I have said. If you can, show me the money. Otherwise, you are showing yourself to be morally bankrupt.

[MannyIsGod]

[boutons_deux]

Massive offshore wind-power backbone inspired by marine scientist's model

http://www.scientificamerican.com/bl...-12&print=true

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Whats funny is that it sounds like you made the comment in jest yet he has taken this ultra-defensive stance.

[boutons_deux]

GOP Attacks on Stimulus Wind Power Money: Hot Air


"These ads are completely at odds with reality," says Liz Salerno, director of industry data and analysis for the American Wind Energy Association. "This myth about jobs has just been snowballing. It couldn't be more opposite to the facts."

In a Facebook posting in February that helped inspire the Republican wind-bashing, Sarah Palin claimed that "80% of the $2 billion they spent on alternative energy went to purchase wind turbines built in China." In fact, only 3 of America's 33,000 turbines were built in China.

Iberdrola's projects inevitably provide some jobs for foreigners; the average wind turbine includes 8,000 components, and while the U.S. now supplies most of its own towers and blades, we're still importing electronics and other parts. But most of the jobs created by Iberdrola's U.S. projects are done by its 875 U.S. employees, and by U.S. installers, truckers and steelmakers as well as manufacturers. "The point isn't the name on the polo shirt," Salerno says. "Foreign investment is a good thing — it creates jobs here."

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,...025886,00.html

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To paraphrase a joke about lawyers:

"How do you know when Repugs are lying? Their lips are moving"

[Wild Cobra]

In fact, only 3 of America's 33,000 turbines were built in China.

I can buy that.

Made in China, Assembled in the USA.

Watch the wording. Unless it is specific, don't jump to conclusions. Parse sentences carefully for what the possibilities are.

[boutons_deux]

I can buy that.

Made in China, Assembled in the USA.

Watch the wording. Unless it is specific, don't jump to conclusions. Parse sentences carefully for what the possibilities are.

You're parsing always biased by your blind ideology. Show us some better, any!, "proof" that the statement is misleading

[boutons_deux]

Here's a TRUTH about the Repugs' anti-American business-friendly votes:

Republicans block ending offshore jobs US tax breaks

U.S. Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic bill on Tuesday to end tax deductions enjoyed by companies that close their U.S. plants and move overseas.

The bill would repeal deferral for companies that close or cut a business in the U.S. and start or expand overseas with the intention of importing goods for sale in the United States.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2821013620100928

[Wild Cobra]

I just did a search of the press releases made by USA wind turbine manufacturers. There are always press releases to get their investors pumped up. This was the only press release i found:

GE Receives $1.4 Billion Contract to Supply Turbines for Largest Wind Farm Ever Built in the US

Wow... It takes 22.7 acres per nameplate megawatt. They expect only 27% of the rated power as calculated by their expected annual power output.

[Wild Cobra]

You're parsing always biased by your blind ideology. Show us some better, any!, "proof" that the statement is misleading

I'm not offering proof. Only pointing out that the article could be deceptive. I realize that maybe the parts are also built in the USA.

How many times have you see something that says the parts were made one place and assembled another?

I am not the one jumping to conclusion. You are. I see the written words, and understand it could mean several things. It was not specific enough.

[Wild Cobra]

Here's a TRUTH about the Repugs' anti-American business-friendly votes:

Republicans block ending offshore jobs US tax breaks

U.S. Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic bill on Tuesday to end tax deductions enjoyed by companies that close their U.S. plants and move overseas.

The bill would repeal deferral for companies that close or cut a business in the U.S. and start or expand overseas with the intention of importing goods for sale in the United States.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2821013620100928

No, here's the truth. Read the legislation, and tell me if you like it:

S. 3816; To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to create American jobs and to prevent the offshoring of such jobs overseas.

For two years, there is incentive to hire workers not needed. After that the workers will probably be laid off on the next president's watch, and the 113th congress' watch. There are already workers being laid off after a similar expired program.