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    Gee or Simmons? does Gee have the strength to guard bigger forwards like Carmelo or Ariza? is Simmons quick enough?

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    I wonder who is the better defender between RMJ and Neal? Is Neal really an improvement, or not?

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    I wonder who is the better defender between RMJ and Neal? Is Neal really an improvement, or not?
    if its a wash, Neal better shoot lights out or im gonna be pissed.

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    In the wing? None of the above.

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    Neither

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    RMJ plays defense?

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    what about Gist. Bowen was never an offensive threat and it never hurt the spurs. can Gist guard smaller forwards?

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    I don't think any of those guys can really play defense. Spurs fans need to hope that Splitter's a decent weak side defender next to Duncan, and that Pop plays them together.

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    Gee or Simmons? does Gee have the strength to guard bigger forwards like Carmelo or Ariza? is Simmons quick enough?
    Gee was a PF at Alabama. I think he can handle post up wings without getting run over.

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    what about Gist. Bowen was never an offensive threat and it never hurt the spurs. can Gist guard smaller forwards?
    Bowen was ALWAYS an offensive threat from the corner, just what SA needed. If Gist had that shot, he'd make the team.

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    The Spurs don't have any above average perimeter defenders on the team right now..only Manu would belong in that category, but obviously you don't want him to use too much energy on defense, and you obviously can't use him as a stopper..

    This is the primary reason I don't view them as contenders..

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    I'd say Hairston and Gist were the best 1 on 1 wing defender prospects the spurs had in the past year. Hairston was shoved out the door and Gist is probably going to be cut in favor of the terrible defending Simmons.

    So far Pop has trashheaped all the players I think had the best chance to actually contribute something to the spurs.

    Hairston: best wing defender of the bunch IMO
    Mahinmi: athletic 7 footer who can defend
    Penney: great shooter, hungry to prove himself
    Jerrels: young talented point guard
    Gist: on his way to being cut, could have been groomed to be an Odom/Durant stopper

    It appears he's holding onto Neal, Temple, & Simmons (all ty scrubs IMO) and planning on alot of small/micro ball. Can't wait for the season to start.

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    Minutes played in the preseason:
    Simmons: 83 min.
    Gee: 32 min.

    I don't get it.
    It's not like Simmons has been anywhere near great. Simmons averages 2.7 ppg with a .30 DG% in the preseason.

    I hope for Spurs fans mental sake that Anderson will be the one getting the backup SF minutes. Simmons playing significant minutes for Spurs will have the same kind of effect on Spurs fans than Devean George playing significant minutes with Dallas had on Mavs fans.

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    The Spurs don't have any above average perimeter defenders on the team right now..only Manu would belong in that category, but obviously you don't want him to use too much energy on defense, and you obviously can't use him as a stopper..

    This is the primary reason I don't view them as contenders..
    IMO, Pop had the right pieces available to contend but so far he canned all of them.

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    Gut feeling that Simmons was just going to be Pop's Bogans (washed up vet but will get minutes over development). I honestly don't want to believe I was right. However so far I'm being proven right, sadly.

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    Simmons D is inconsistent he can be really bad or okay he just defends like a average nba player, but his offense game is bad though.

    Gee has shown flashes he can defend, but of course can't show it if he doesn't play.

    Temple is an average defender he just needs to bulk up and get back in playing shape becuase he was injured this past summer.

    Jefferson from the 3 games I've seen him play this year his D has looked better hopefully he continue to improve, but right now imo it's average at best.

    Neal can defend pretty well(better than mason), and moves his feet that's why I can see him playing quite a bit, if his shot comes which has been okay so far around during the season in which most fans are jumping off the bridge with this guy then he can be a heck of an player.

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    I don't think any of those guys can really play defense. Spurs fans need to hope that Splitter's a decent weak side defender next to Duncan, and that Pop plays them together.
    I agree 100%. Even with a decent wing defender, Duncan alone underneath is a formula for disaster. I was hoping to see Splitter tonight , but it was not to be.From what I saw tonight , Temple and Simmons sure have not earned any minutes for offense or defense. I am not impressed with Neal either ,but I do believe that he could be useful (maybe)if paired with the stronger players for spot minutes. He is not afraid to shoot but cannot create his own shot.
    As for Anderson, I think he needs to play right now to get in shape and get comfortable , but at this time he does not appear ready to contribute either. But I think that can change .He certainly has a body that looks like a basketball player.
    But yes, I think Splitter has to pan out to be a good help defender and if he is then he and Duncan must play together or the spurs will be mediocre at best on the defensive end.

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    I'd say Hairston and Gist were the best 1 on 1 wing defender prospects the spurs had in the past year. Hairston was shoved out the door and Gist is probably going to be cut in favor of the terrible defending Simmons.

    So far Pop has trashheaped all the players I think had the best chance to actually contribute something to the spurs.

    Hairston: best wing defender of the bunch IMO
    Mahinmi: athletic 7 footer who can defend
    Penney: great shooter, hungry to prove himself
    Jerrels: young talented point guard
    Gist: on his way to being cut, could have been groomed to be an Odom/Durant stopper

    It appears he's holding onto Neal, Temple, & Simmons (all ty scrubs IMO) and planning on alot of small/micro ball. Can't wait for the season to start.
    Thats a pretty good D league team but I don't think these guys put the spurs over the top.I think it is a big jump from being d league stars like most of these guys to contributing NBA player.

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    I'd say Hairston and Gist were the best 1 on 1 wing defender prospects the spurs had in the past year. Hairston was shoved out the door and Gist is probably going to be cut in favor of the terrible defending Simmons.

    So far Pop has trashheaped all the players I think had the best chance to actually contribute something to the spurs.

    Hairston: best wing defender of the bunch IMO
    Mahinmi: athletic 7 footer who can defend
    Penney: great shooter, hungry to prove himself
    Jerrels: young talented point guard
    Gist: on his way to being cut, could have been groomed to be an Odom/Durant stopper

    It appears he's holding onto Neal, Temple, & Simmons (all ty scrubs IMO) and planning on alot of small/micro ball. Can't wait for the season to start.
    Now don't get me wrong , from what I have seen Simmons is sucking up oxygen and Temple has not shown much this year, but solid nBA players do not grow on trees.

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    Thats a pretty good D league team but I don't think these guys put the spurs over the top.I think it is a big jump from being d league stars like most of these guys to contributing NBA player.
    Perhaps not over the top, it's hard to say. With an eye towards the future however I think they were the best prospects of the bunch.

    Instead Pop is investing in RJ, Bonner, Neal, Simmons, & Temple as the future face of the franchise. Does this not scare you?

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    Perhaps not over the top, it's hard to say. With an eye towards the future however I think they were the best prospects of the bunch.

    Instead Pop is investing in RJ, Bonner, Neal, Simmons, & Temple as the future face of the franchise. Does this not scare you?
    I do not think any of these players are the face of the future. The hope is that there are minutes that can be earned on an NBA level to rest the stars.I certainly don't think that anyone in the organization thinks that any of these guys are the face of the future. And yes , Bonner and RJ are NBA players in their own roles. Not stars or faces of the future , just role players . The others are not yet. I do agree that Simmons and Temple so far show not much at all.Neal , as I said earlier , I believe maybe he can contribute in a limited role with proper pairings, but not on his own.I suppose he and Penny had similar games , I honestly did not see Penny play.
    Anderson is the wild card. I do not have an opinion yet. He needs to play, get in shape, and get comfortable and then we will see. The others are d league stars or end of the bench fillers if that on an NBA team.

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    i would rather see Gee playing 10-15 mins a night backing up RJ because what he lacks in defense he makes up for with his athleticism and slashing to the hole. like a poor mans Sjax when he was with the spurs. as long as he plays good team defense, i dont see why we should cut him. im rooting for him.

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    Both sucks, only Tiago can save us at the defensive end of the court.

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    i would rather see Gee playing 10-15 mins a night backing up RJ because what he lacks in defense he makes up for with his athleticism and slashing to the hole. like a poor mans Sjax when he was with the spurs. as long as he plays good team defense, i dont see why we should cut him. im rooting for him.
    I would have liked to see him play tonight . I have no opinion on him either due to lack of seeing him play at the NBA level(not D league). Hopefully Anderson can become that backup to RJ. I must say when I hear the poor man's comparison to me it means that he probably can't truly play .

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    i would rather see Gee playing 10-15 mins a night backing up RJ because what he lacks in defense he makes up for with his athleticism and slashing to the hole. like a poor mans Sjax when he was with the spurs. as long as he plays good team defense, i dont see why we should cut him. im rooting for him.
    That's what the spurs got Anderson for. Gee really has no place on the team with Anderson aboard and if Pop keeps him over Gist (who can offer something unique to the spurs -- defense on mobile PF of the league like Odom, Frye, Durant, etc) it would suck for the spurs.

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