UFC 121: Lesnar vs. Velasquez October 23, 2010

[dbreiden83080]

Shane is a powerhouse though. Cain is not. Cain is more technical for sure and has a great gas tank his problem as i see it, will be he will have a hard time hurting Brock. His fight with Rothwell, he was landing as Ben was standing up. If Brock lands he is gonna hurt Cain way more than Cain hurts him.. Can he go 3 hard rounds or so with Brock and take some big shots

We'll see

[Stringer_Bell]

I saw a preview on the countdown show on UFC.com Cain is ranting on about his "Mexican heritage and they need a Mexican champ so badly, i have to give that to them" What a tool.. Does this guy even have any white friends??

Brock said "After I whip your ass i am gonna drink a Corona and eat a Burito in honor of your Mexican Heritage"..

http://www.ufc.com/media/121-FOD-US

Around the 4 minute mark, before it goes to the Kampmann/Sheilds fight.

That's taking it too far, Brock. I hope Cain whoops his ass even if I lose the prediction, don't give Brock the pleasure of enjoying a Corona or burrito, especially at the same time. Kick his ass, Sea Bass!

[dbreiden83080]

http://www.ufc.com/media/121-FOD-US

Around the 4 minute mark, before it goes to the Kampmann/Sheilds fight.

That's taking it too far, Brock. I hope Cain whoops his ass even if I lose the prediction, don't give Brock the pleasure of enjoying a Corona or burrito, especially at the same time. Kick his ass, Sea Bass!

Too far Stringer. Cain never shuts the up about being Mexican and Mexico. The guy has Brown Pride on his chest and throws up gang signs after he wins. He's as racist as it gets. Trout has his number..

Brock is just being Brock and he's funny as ..

[polandprzem]

I'm polish and I'm from Poland
I do have a nickname polandprzem


Damn I'm a screwup

[dbreiden83080]

I'm polish and I'm from Poland
I do have a nickname polandprzem


Damn I'm a screwup

I'm Irish and Italian

I promise to get "White. Irish, Italian Pride" in tats on my chest and never get offended if someone offers to buy me a drink after the fight..

[BlairForceDejuan]

Brock looks ALPHA as with that beard.

[dbreiden83080]

I saw on the UFC 120 show that tickets were still available for this and went to ticketmaster to see. No wonder they want 500 bucks a ticket for the 200 section.. I paid 110 for the 300 section at UFC 111 in Jersey..

WAAAAAY Over-priced..

[CubanSucks]

[URL]That's taking it too far, Brock. I hope Cain whoops his ass even if I lose the prediction, don't give Brock the pleasure of enjoying a Corona or burrito, especially at the same time. Kick his ass, Sea Bass!

[dbreiden83080]

[dbreiden83080]

I have a hard time picking Hamill over o. My personal dislike for him aside, I have to agree with Stringer and poland that Ortiz's career is over. However, as shown in the Franklin fight, Matt doesn't like to fight people he considers, or at least once considered, friends - he just cannot separate his personal feelings from his professional life. That's going to hurt him mightily here. o is physically wrecked and Matt is mentally wrecked, neither will be able to do much of anything and it's going to make for a long, boring decision fight.

I actually think the fight with Rich will be a good thing for Matt here in that he learned his lesson that night and if he didn't think he could go full throttle this time with a friend or former friend he would have said no. Matt has had some inconsistant results and lets face it, if he ever wants to make some more money he needs to win more fights... He'll never be champ but he can be better than he's shown so far.. I think he'll fight very hard here and take a UD..

[Stringer_Bell]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/10/1...deaf-community

o just the strangest when trying to hype fights, now he's apologizing (read the bottom of the article). Matt also touches on his mistake in the Franklin fight.

I bet there's a lot of money to be made on Cain winning, anyone thinks he tries to go the Frankie Edgar route and just prays he's faster?

[desflood]

"I had to get the mindset of our friendship out of the door when I learned who I was fighting. It's business. I don't want to make the same mistakes I did with Rich Franklin. In the cage, (Ortiz) will be my opponent – nothing else."

You may be right, db. It's great that he can see exactly where he went wrong, but that's a mental tick that would be hard to overcome. Hopefully it won't be too difficult for him.

[polandprzem]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/10/1...deaf-community

o just the strangest when trying to hype fights, now he's apologizing (read the bottom of the article). Matt also touches on his mistake in the Franklin fight.

I bet there's a lot of money to be made on Cain winning, anyone thinks he tries to go the Frankie Edgar route and just prays he's faster?

he is faster

The thing is- can he keep the distance with hands and more important with legs - cause Lesnar shots are quick as .
he must to fight standing up as long as possible and he can win the decission - he does not have enough power to knock Lesnar out.

I would love this to be a 5 rounder and see how Brock will look in round numero 5 !

[polandprzem]

Yea and o with his _ I taught him everything he knows ?

get out off my face man

[dbreiden83080]

You may be right, db. It's great that he can see exactly where he went wrong, but that's a mental tick that would be hard to overcome. Hopefully it won't be too difficult for him.

Yeah it's an interesting test for Matt. We'll see if he comes through. I am a o fan have been for years but it just feels like his time is officially over. Even i am getting sick of his talking about "Next step is getting my world le back" o it hasn't been your le since 2004. And even he has to know he is not really relevant in todays MMA, especially at 205 the deepest division in the sport..

[polandprzem]

in the UFC I would consider 170 the deepest

[CubanSucks]

I'm not too sure Cain in faster than Brock

[dbreiden83080]

Brendan Schaub offically suffers diarrhea of the mouth

On Brock and his camp..


http://www.ifight365.com/2010/10/ufc...eads%E2%80%9D/



…What do they do, man? It’s all meatheads, right? So, you got all stud wrestlers. You know what they are is a modern-day Hammer House. You know what I’m saying? Like, they get together, it’s all these big dinosaurs pushing and wrestling each other around, and heaven forbid they should bring in a striker or bring in a guy to teach them to evolve their game. You know, they’re really not evolving. You can say Brock’s evolved with his jiu-jitsu because he submitted Carwin with a head-and-arm choke. It’s not like he armbarred the guy or did an ankle lock or something. They’re just not evolving, man, and I think the sport of mixed martial arts is more like guys like Georges St-Pierre, guys like Nate Marquardt or myself, who are well-rounded, they can do everything. When I’m in camp, I’m constantly training, trying to improve my game and get better at all aspects. Can’t say the same for those guys. You know, they go in there and they wrestle. And, you know, he’s doing well with it, but I think the sport needs to continue to grow, and I don’t think they help the sport grow.

[The TroutBum]

Hybrid...

[dbreiden83080]

Hybrid...

[CubanSucks]

Brendan Schaub offically suffers diarrhea of the mouth

On Brock and his camp..


http://www.ifight365.com/2010/10/ufc...eads%E2%80%9D/



…What do they do, man? It’s all meatheads, right? So, you got all stud wrestlers. You know what they are is a modern-day Hammer House. You know what I’m saying? Like, they get together, it’s all these big dinosaurs pushing and wrestling each other around, and heaven forbid they should bring in a striker or bring in a guy to teach them to evolve their game. You know, they’re really not evolving. You can say Brock’s evolved with his jiu-jitsu because he submitted Carwin with a head-and-arm choke. It’s not like he armbarred the guy or did an ankle lock or something. They’re just not evolving, man, and I think the sport of mixed martial arts is more like guys like Georges St-Pierre, guys like Nate Marquardt or myself, who are well-rounded, they can do everything. When I’m in camp, I’m constantly training, trying to improve my game and get better at all aspects. Can’t say the same for those guys. You know, they go in there and they wrestle. And, you know, he’s doing well with it, but I think the sport needs to continue to grow, and I don’t think they help the sport grow.

Where did all this come from? Maybe I should've clicked the link

[CubanSucks]

conserving his gas

[dbreiden83080]

Not changing my pick but man all the experts seem to think Cain is gonna win. I bet the pro's picks from Sherdog are all Cain as well in a few days. Still a lot of Anti-Brock bias out there i think. That said this fight is very close and could go either way..

[Stringer_Bell]

Not changing my pick but man all the experts seem to think Cain is gonna win. I bet the pro's picks from Sherdog are all Cain as well in a few days. Still a lot of Anti-Brock bias out there i think. That said this fight is very close and could go either way..

Out of all of Brock's opponents so far, Cain is the most complete fighter (even better than JDS too). I think that's what is fueling the "expert" picks. But time after time Brock's size and mutant recovery time trumps anything people throw at him.

If it goes the distance, Cain wins for sure. But how the do you keep the bull on the ropes for 25 minutes? Cain says he'll show us on fight night, but it's basically a 25 minute running of the bulls in a small cage. God bless him for wanting to make it a war.

[The TroutBum]

This thing is over in less than two minutes. Brock is gonna knock that stupid Mexican unconscious.