Reality Check: More Jobs Created Already under Obama than 8 year under Bush

[MannyIsGod]

Having said all of this, Dan, doesn't it fall to the Dems to take the blame for failing to communicate this effectively?

How do you communicate that to a public who doesn't want to hear it?

[Drachen]

The bush adminisatration lost jobs during 2001 and again during the last two years. Your own chart shows job growth occurring since Obama took office. It is still not positive, but look where it started.

C'mon, CC.

Actually that doesn't represent job growth unless you are talking negative job growth. Due to the fact that they are percentages, everything since the last quarter of 07 represents net negative job change. Now, yes you are correct, the blood letting has slowed considerably since about the time that bush left office to the point that it looks like we are finally just now experiencing a net increase in jobs. Major Major progress in this arena so far this presidency. Like I said lets hope the trend continues.

[EVAY]

Actually that doesn't represent job growth unless you are talking negative job growth. Due to the fact that they are percentages, everything since the last quarter of 07 represents net negative job change. Now, yes you are correct, the blood letting has slowed considerably since about the time that bush left office to the point that it looks like we are finally just now experiencing a net increase in jobs. Major Major progress in this arena so far this presidency. Like I said lets hope the trend continues.

You are absolutely right, again. Thanks for the correction.

[EVAY]

We are at the point of cheering for "less negative job growth". That's the best we can do right now, but it also reflects the kind of 'improvement' that occurred during part of the Bush years, before the bubble.

I worry that we are in another bubble right now.

[boutons_deux]

Reality check, any US job growth is widely insufficient to meet population growth, never mind rehire the millions who lost their jobs.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1...tml?view=print

any "jobless claims down" nearly always means now that the discouraged jobless quit looking, and are not counted a claimants.

[CosmicCowboy]

The unemployment numbers are pure fabrication intentionally jacked with to make things look better than they really are. That "given up looking for work" category that they use so they don't have to count people is total bull .

[EVAY]

How do you communicate that to a public who doesn't want to hear it?

I don't know, but then I'm not running for office.

The fact is that folks are mad now, just like they were in 2006 and 2008, and like Dark Reign said in another thread, in two years they'll still be mad, and then it will be the Republicans who get thrown out again.

[EVAY]

^^^What amazes me about both the Dems and Reps. is that each of them continually misses the message of any election. The message of the election is 'we're still mad'. It is not "we want republican policies" or "we want democratic policies".

[Drachen]

^^^what amazes me about both the dems and reps. Is that each of them continually misses the message of any election. The message of the election is 'we're still mad'. It is not "we want republican policies" or "we want democratic policies".

thank you!

[boutons_deux]

What policies do the outraged voters want?

But, it doesn't matter what they want.


The corps, MIC, Wall St always get the legislation and rules that they buy.

Voters are disenfranchised.

[Drachen]

What policies do the outraged voters want?

But, it doesn't matter what they want.


The corps, MIC, Wall St always get the legislation and rules that they buy.

Voters are disenfranchised.

Must be a glitch in your system, you left out "VRWC" from your default response.

[EVAY]

What policies do the outraged voters want?

But, it doesn't matter what they want.


The corps, MIC, Wall St always get the legislation and rules that they buy.

Voters are disenfranchised.

They want things to be different than they are now.

That's all they know.

They don't really know what they want...they just know that this isn't it.

[boutons_deux]

Must be a glitch in your system, you left out "VRWC" from your default response.

FIXED: banks, corps, capitalists, MIC, etc ARE the VRWC.

[z0sa]

I wonder who programmed boutons?

[Drachen]

FIXED: banks, corps, capitalists, MIC, etc ARE the VRWC.

Thank you, I was starting to get the cold shivers, paranoia was setting in, and all I could think while rocking back and forth in the fetal position was "This is not the world I know"

[TeyshaBlue]

Thank you, I was starting to get the cold shivers, paranoia was setting in, and all I could think while rocking back and forth in the fetal position was "This is not the world I know"

[FuzzyLumpkins]

How do you communicate that to a public who doesn't want to hear it?

Its not so much this as it is the GOP is very good at campaigning. They really are. From Reginald Denny and George Sr. to managing to get Jr. elected twice should tell you something. They will do anything to win as people like Cheney and Nixon will attest to.

Really from a policy standpoint there has been no movement right on social issues for the last 50 years and they have convinced people that somehow their deficit spending is better than the other side.

[Winehole23]

I just said TARP, WH.

God bless Neil Barofsky:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39846384

[coyotes_geek]

God bless Neil Barofsky:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39846384

It's stories like this why, IMO at least, that we should be leery about government getting into business.

[Wild Cobra]

It's stories like this why, IMO at least, that we should be leery about government getting into business.

Government has no business in business. It needs to leave lawful people alone.

[Winehole23]

Lawful people?

[Wild Cobra]

Lawful people?

Only a few business' are unlawful, and most aren't noticed I bet. My intent is that the government should leave the free market alone, at least for the most part. Some regulation and taxation are needed, but are too much now. With more, all the government is doing is harming this nation with most added regulation and taxation.

[Wild Cobra]

The stimulus also had an income tax cut of $400 for individuals and $800 for couples.

Liar.

Tax credits are not the same as a tax cut.

The GM/Chrysler takeover was a huge success.

I doubt that is true.

TARP may turn a profit.

And if it does, then the deficit is farther reduced on the Bush deficit watch. There was an amendment that got republican votes that any recovered money pays the deficit back down, and that would have to be applied to the bush tax budget. Without that sticker, it probably wouldn't have passed.

[Wild Cobra]

Doesn't this just prove the effects of the bubble?

Remember how I repeatedly said in past posts that the decline started before 2000? The tech bubble burst... and on president Clinton's watch, and now people want to blame president Bush...

Cycles happen. However, I will stick to my solid opinion that democrats scare prosperity out of existence. Funny how the large drop in our economy happened months after the democrats became the majority in congress, now, isn't it?

Coincidence? I think not.

[Winehole23]

Only a few business' are unlawful, and most aren't noticed I bet.

You totally lost me right there.

My intent is that the government should leave the free market alone, at least for the most part. Some regulation and taxation are needed, but are too much now. With more, all the government is doing is harming this nation with most added regulation and taxation.

Boilerplate.

C'mon now. Is that the best ye can do?