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    doesn't NO still have that really good rookie from last year at PG who many were saying was so good they could trade Paul? Can't remember the name (Collison?)

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    Darren Collison is with the Pacers now. Reportedly his assists have taken a big drop away from the friendly confines of the New Orleans scorer.

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    New Orleans 2011 first round pick.
    Interesting, this trade will probably help the hornets a bit but was this move made to make Rudy happy? Probably.

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    Darren Collison is with the Pacers now. Reportedly his assists have taken a big drop away from the friendly confines of the New Orleans scorer.
    You've heard of Stockholm Syndrome? Well, this is something different. It's named after the original beneficiary, and it's called Stockton Syndrome. The beneficiary will be credited with an assist, even if he isn't in the game, but in fact is on the bench waving a towel.

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    Interesting, this trade will probably help the hornets a bit but was this move made to make Rudy happy? Probably.
    Nothing could accomplish that at this point.

    I think it was a move to not have Bayless turn into Rudy II, with Miller and Roy handling the bulk of the create minutes in their offense. With Rudy and Roy already barking this pre-season, all they need is another clubhouse lawyer.

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    Plus, Bayless is not that good. He has shown some flashes here and there, but I don't see him as anything special at all. So getting a first rounder is nice.

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    You've heard of Stockholm Syndrome? Well, this is something different. It's named after the original beneficiary, and it's called Stockton Syndrome. The beneficiary will be credited with an assist, even if he isn't in the game, but in fact is on the bench waving a towel.
    Yeah, the Jazz def originated the practice. They were still giving Stockton 6 APG the year after he retired.

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    Good trade for both teams.

    For the Trail Blazers, they'd have had a malcontent on their hands if Bayless wasn't handed rotation minutes this season (understandably so in his case, he's been patient enough and despite his shortcomings, is easily talented enough to be a rotation player).

    With already a malcontent of epic proportions in Fernandez and when considering the contract they gave Matthews, plus the starting perimeter trio of Roy, Miller and Batum, it only made sense for five players to play rotation minutes on the perimeter. Throw in the fact that they already have a trio of guard prospects in Williams, Johnson and Mills (who they'd have likely otherwise had to waive had this trade not been consummated) and the fact that they're getting a quality pick back and it's a no brainer.

    For the Hornets, this is all about keeping Paul happy. Did they overpay slightly in terms of the protection (or lack thereof)? Possibly, depending on where the pick falls, but Bayless figures to be a massive improvement over Green/Jerrells as the backup point. Also, if they're smart, this frees them up to start Thornton, allow Bayless to be the third guard and go-to scorer for the second unit and demote Belinelli to fourth guard status.

    They were probably not going to make the playoffs before this trade and this trade probably doesn't change that, but it should get them a little closer, allow them to not wear out Paul as much (even though he's their only true PG) and puts them in a position to where, if they can acquire a decent third big, they could be a playoff team.

    All in all, it makes sense. Waiting on a pick that probably would have fallen somewhere between 12-15 next year was only going to put them one step closer to losing Paul.

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    Plus, Bayless is not that good. He has shown some flashes here and there, but I don't see him as anything special at all. So getting a first rounder is nice.
    If George Hill had the "chances" that Bayless had, he'd be , too. Hill played more as a rookie than Bayless did in his second year. Young PGs need to be developed, not sat. He played real well in the playoffs last year, too. If he can scavenge a few minutes at the SG spot, he might actually develop.

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    Jerrells was waived to make room for Bayless.

    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...rtis_jerrells/

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    The Dell Damps doing at New Orleans?

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    I suppose it was inevitable that CJ was going to be cut by the Spurs anyway, but that seems like kind of a move to cut a guy after a colleague went to some trouble to get him to your team.

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    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...rtis_jerrells/

    The Hornets waived point guard Curtis Jerrells on Sunday.

    New Orleans acquired Jerrells in a trade with San Antonio last week.

    Because of his release, the Hornets won't have to send a future second-round pick to the Spurs.

    The move comes after the team acquired Jerryd Bayless from the Trail Blazers.

    The Hornets now have the league-maximum of 15 players on their roster.

    Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...#ixzz13NYGhAep

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    Hornets made a better deal for a better player so Jarells was expendable.

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    I suppose it was inevitable that CJ was going to be cut by the Spurs anyway, but that seems like kind of a move to cut a guy after a colleague went to some trouble to get him to your team.
    This .
    Demps is off the list of favors now.

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    Do the Hornets have his D-League rights? I'm assuming they do but the D-League rules change so much I honestly don't know.

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    Do the Hornets have his D-League rights? I'm assuming they do but the D-League rules change so much I honestly don't know.
    I guess New Mexico can pick him up now since it would actually be their call, though it seems weird that the Hornets end of the trade is off no matter what.

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    I guess New Mexico can pick him up now since it would actually be their call, though it seems weird that the Hornets end of the trade is off no matter what.
    If the trade was completed I would think think the unlikely to happen pick would still belong to the Spurs. If the whole trade was voided then would think the Toros would get first shot, but wasn't he bound for overseas if cut by the Spurs anyway?

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    If the trade was completed I would think think the unlikely to happen pick would still belong to the Spurs. If the whole trade was voided then would think the Toros would get first shot, but wasn't he bound for overseas if cut by the Spurs anyway?
    I'm assuming the trade was complete and the Spurs don't receive the pick because keeping Jerrells for some defined amount of time was a condition of the trade. The Hornets waived him, so it looks he was theirs to waive and their D-League affiliate would get first shot at him.

    Hopefully the new ownership runs the Thunderbirds better than David Kahn's company did.

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    I guess New Mexico can pick him up now since it would actually be their call, though it seems weird that the Hornets end of the trade is off no matter what.
    Maybe it was all a ploy and CJ will wait 30 days and re-sign with the Spurs!

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    Plus, Bayless is not that good. He has shown some flashes here and there, but I don't see him as anything special at all. So getting a first rounder is nice.
    Actually Bayless is very good. He just wasn't developed or used properly by Portland. If unleashed he'll become one of the better scorers in the league.

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    Do the Hornets have his D-League rights? I'm assuming they do but the D-League rules change so much I honestly don't know.
    I think Toros still have his D-League rights.

    If I've understood well the new rule, a player cut during the training camp can only be assigned to the affiliate D-League team if nobody owns his D-League rights.

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    Did we just get Kevin Palmer'd?

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    I think Toros still have his D-League rights.

    If I've understood well the new rule, a player cut during the training camp can only be assigned to the affiliate D-League team if nobody owns his D-League rights.
    That kind of makes sense, but who knows.

    That would mean the Toros could conceivably have a Dwayne Jones/Marcus Cousin frontline?

    lol

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    Did anyone know this?

    From Mike Monroe (last paragraph):
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...105744458.html
    "Jerrells cut, draft pick lost: The Hornets on Sunday waived former Spurs point guard Curtis Jerrells to make room on their roster for combo guard Jarryd Bayless. In the process, the Spurs lost the future second-round draft pick they had acquired from the Hornets when they traded Jerrells to New Orleans last week."

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