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    and the only solution is to mobilize and militarize our southern border. We need to take the troops returning from Iraq and mobilize on our borders... namely Texas. Mexico will cry foul, but it will show that we are resolute on keeping the violence from spilling across our borders. Before ya'll claim racism, I'm Mexican and my dad was born in Ciudad Juarez.... he agrees.

    If this senseless killing and lawlessness continues, we should invade Northern Mexico, restore order, then hand it back.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Apparently people really have learned nothing over the past decade.

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    There is a reason the violence hasn't spilled over the border.

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    If this senseless killing and lawlessness continues, we should invade Northern Mexico, restore order, then hand it back.


    Yeah, lets wage a military war in a foreign land because of a bunch of ing meth dealers want to act like animals unto one another. Good riddance.

    The suggestion that we mobilize our military in Mexico is beyond asinine and is entirely lacking in any understanding of foreign, economic or social affairs.

    Changing our drug laws on the other hand, that might make sense.

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    Exactly. Why the is the first idea to invade?

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    and the only solution is to mobilize and militarize our southern border. We need to take the troops returning from Iraq and mobilize on our borders... namely Texas. Mexico will cry foul, but it will show that we are resolute on keeping the violence from spilling across our borders. Before ya'll claim racism, I'm Mexican and my dad was born in Ciudad Juarez.... he agrees.

    If this senseless killing and lawlessness continues, we should invade Northern Mexico, restore order, then hand it back.
    You got my vote. Barry should stop his war on the Afgans and send those returning troops to cover the rest of the border. After we seal the borders go on a national campaign to tell the illegals to get the out. Those who stay and continue to break our laws then our government should use ALL its resources to give them the boot.

    I'm tired of this stupid ass debate. There are 15 million of them. Enough is enough. We can be civil about this whole thing but it's time Uncle Sam starts putting his foot up these criminals asses and clean house.

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    The only way is to attack the profit margins of the Drug Cartels. Otherwise, you will just have the balloon effect and the violence will jump from country to country as it has done for the last many decades.

    There is a reason Mexico is the current hot spot.

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    The horrendous and pervasive MX drug violence has not crossed the border so far, and very probably won't. So it's no threat to USA.

    In the other direction, the USA (drug market) is clearly a huge national security threat to MX and countries south, pushing MX close to being a failed state. Again "so far", the US has done nothing to lessen illegal drugs, the corporate-enriching War on Drugs being as big a failure as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The USA exporting subsidized agricultural products, esp corn, to MX has destroyed 1000s of small farmers, and "addicted" MX to US production, which is always the objective. Many of US-impoverished small farmers have come to the US trying to make money to send back to their familites, NOT to work the drug trade or criminal life.

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    The horrendous and pervasive MX drug violence has not crossed the border so far, and very probably won't. So it's no threat to USA.
    Oh you are right... because this just did not happen...
    http://www.ksat.com/news/25348810/detail.html

    and there definitely has NOT been a wave of drug related violence and murders in Laredo and El Paso...
    http://www.amw.com/features/feature_...ail.cfm?id=293

    And I'm sure a there has been no recent upsurge in violent crimes in the US committed by Mexican cartel members...
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cartel-arming/

    Sure.

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    Like the attack on WTC, any violence crossing the border is not a NATIONAL security risk. The attack on the WTC was even a risk for the island of Manhattan, never mind the entire US.

    Plain old All American gangs and thugs commit more mayhem than MX drug lords, murder more people than foreign drug cartels.

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    Plain old All American gangs and thugs commit more mayhem than MX drug lords, murder more people than foreign drug cartels.
    lol boutons

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    Enjoy the show. Ignorant s are easily entertained.

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    Yeah, lets wage a military war in a foreign land because of a bunch of ing poppy seed dealers want to act like animals unto one another. Good riddance.
    fify... but yeah, we basically already took on something similar in the name of national security... The fact that we're now sitting in the negotiating table along with the guys we wanted to wipe out should really tell you that throwing money and troops at a problem ain't going to make it magically disappear.

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    Enjoy the show. Ignorant s are easily entertained.
    It's funny how easily bleeding hearts mistake resolve for ignorance. And your colorful metaphor makes your argument oh so much more powerful!

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    Enjoy the show. Ignorant s are easily entertained.
    Lemme know when mass graves of 70+ start popping up in Detroit. When was the last time America turned into Colombia circa 1990's to combat its gang problems?

    lol boutons
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    It's funny how easily bleeding hearts mistake resolve for ignorance. And your colorful metaphor makes your argument oh so much more powerful!
    Hyperbole or made-up stats aside, not much is more ass-ignorant than suggesting we deploy US troops into Mexico in order to combat drug violence.

    Seriously, your suggestion is a ing re ed and unrealistic one. No subsequent post in this thread has or will come close rivalling the original post's level of ignorance. Sorry.

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    Someday in the not too distant future, when we're much older in the composite, we'll be begging Mexicans to emigrate, probably even offering them tax credits.

    Prediction: the aging of the USA and the urgent need to replace/reproduce a young, productive work force, eventually overtakes xenophobia and nativism.

    (It won't be pretty. It may take a long time.)

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    prediction, usa will actually follow through with a healthy plan to kick the illegals we have here out by 2014. that's change and hope we can look forward too.

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    Will not happen. Will never happen, jack.

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    12Mil plus deported? No way.

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    Here's another question that unfortunately won't have an answer with the current rules in place: How much drug money is involved in campaign finance this upcoming election?

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    yeah like mexico will ever get its together.



    not with the US' drug policies and financial imperialism.

    come on over, ill give you citizenship so you can scrub my toilets. i dont mind one bit.

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    The justification for invading Mexico is not the drug wars. As people have pointed out, the violence has not yet spilled over.

    The justification is the level of corruption throughout the country. Immigration would not be an issue if it were not for the corruption in Mexican political culture. If they do not have the sense or ability to revolt then we should overthrow that piece of government for them.

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    already assisted by the US, and mexico went back to the same . theyre hopeless. always will be.

    just give up on mexico, let them be and focus on canadian relations.

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    Here's another question that unfortunately won't have an answer with the current rules in place: How much drug money is involved in campaign finance this upcoming election?
    Political donors deserve to be shielded from frivolous accusations. To this end, the anonymity of the donor class should be preserved at all costs.

    Loose lips sink ships...

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