2010-11 San Antonio Spurs are not contenders

[history2b]

I happen to think that the Spurs not being contenders is a lot funnier than me not being able to start a thread on a pathetic message board filled with delusional Spurs cronies who would like the crap off Tim Duncan's ass after each dump he takes.

[ohmwrecker]

Lol, of course they can be written off and labeled "done." If they can't beat the powerhouse of the conference, then they are "done."

And the Spurs can't beat the Lakers in a 7 game series.

Mavs
Rockets
Grizzlies
Hornets
Spurs

Make up your mind, re .

[TinTin]

I happen to think that the Spurs not being contenders is a lot funnier than me not being able to start a thread on a pathetic message board filled with delusional Spurs cronies who would like the crap off Tim Duncan's ass after each dump he takes.

After seeing lakaluva and other people troll then you, I appreciate how hard it is to be a good troll

[ChumpDumper]

I happen to think that the Spurs not being contenders is a lot funnier than me not being able to start a thread on a pathetic message board filled with delusional Spurs cronies who would like the crap off Tim Duncan's ass after each dump he takes.

It's so pathetic you can't stop posting on it.

That's funny.

[Chris Fall]

Spurs have an outside shot tbh the Lakers will decline this year, particularly Kobe

[tbonewalker]

Nope, those were the facts, not opinions.



By NBA superstar standards, DUH. Observation is the only evidence you need and the 2010 playoffs were evidence enough of Tim Duncan's decline as a dominant player. If Tim is not dominant, the Spurs aren't contenders. A fanboy like yourself naturally will point to per minute statistics of "facts" while the reality of what took place on the floor. I'm going to guess you're the typical moron who understands basketball through the aid of a stat sheet.




I was right! You are a run of the mill stat moron! I had an inking of hope you wouldn't be this dumb, I suppose because I am in constant search of a worthy adversary, but it is what it is.

Using these moronic irrelevant formulas to break down the game will never be apart of my language. Effing efficiency ratings, lol. When will the idiots ever learn?

How did you manage to measure the intangibles of the game with your efficiency breakdown? Heart, hustle, clutch, defense? A rebound collected in the 1st quarter is the same as a clutch board made on a crucial defensive stance in the 4th quarter? Same with shots made, steals, blocks, assists, etc etc. How are these important distinctions separated in your "efficiency statistics?"

And defense? How are proper defensive elements measured? When a player successfully cuts off a driving player or alters a shot just enough to cause a miss, how is this taken into account? What about defensive rotations that are made or failed to be made fast enough? How do we determine if players are playing the game "the right way?" How do we weigh making the most important plays of the game versus just run of the mill plays? It can't be done. It won't be done. The game is too complex and their are way too many intangibles to ever put the game in its entirety into mathematical context.

Stats are a useful, limited guide but any time anyone starts rationalizing in stat geek I immediately understand their brain's limitation on the game.



Bean's oft injured knee hasn't caused him to miss big chunks of the season and Bean plays through the pain well enough to win championships. Manu's hang nail re-appears and he's back on the pine for weeks while Spurs fans resurrect the slew of excuses for why they'd really win if Manu had played. If I had a nickel every time a Spurs fan cried excuses about a Manu injury...

And Bynum is injury prone.... how has that inhibited the Lakers success?

Cool Luke Walton comment, a player who has absolutely no impact on winning or losing... You realize I picked Manu for a reason and not say, Matt Bonner, right?



I called him:

soft - Are you suggesting he's tough?
euro - Is he African because he's black?
chucker - is he a distributing PG or a scoring PG?
no defense - because he plays horrendous man to man defense and has incredibly poor defensive instincts. Funny that you'd point to a single game where he played seemingly effective defense on Steve Nash, despite the Suns winning. Is Parker now a better defender than Hill based on this one game in your objective, non-homeristic eyes?



Vujacic sucks, doesn't bother me one bit to admit that because I am not a homer moron who needs to justify everything for my team. Moreover critical thinking forces me to acknowledge that Vujacic's role and impact on the Lakers is not the same as what Jefferson's was expected to be.

When SA acquired RJ I laughed, literally. I mocked Spurs fans on that other board for months and I was told this meant I was now "scared of the revitalized Spurs" and that he now made them "the best Spurs team of the Duncan era" among a great many other things. You have to understand how much I relish in pointing out this miserable failure by the Spurs FO compounded by the worst contract extention I've seen many years.

It's been determined pal; it is a complete and utter failure that will only get worse over the next 4 years.




Singularly speaking huh? Lol. No, sorry, there isn't one player on the Spurs roster who comes close to offering the defensive ability of Bruce Bowen, collectively or "singularly." That's a gaping hole in the Spurs roster and it will be exploited when it comes time to compete.




WRONG. You do NOT have to quantify this. You watch how he plays the game. You observe if he effectively rotates to the right position as quickly and successfully as he did say 7 years ago when he was one of the best in the league at doing just that.

"Just being physical" does not protect the paint. Dejuan Blair is strong but stupid and cannot rotate and block shots on an elite level. Neither can Tiago Splitter who's defense is subpar as well. He has some potential to improve but I wouldn't put money on him becoming a "defensive presence."

But getting back to Tim who is no longer a 1st team all NBA / DPOY type player as evidenced by the NBA's voting and recognition this past season and the Phoenix Suns series where unknown back up PG Goran Dragic literally shredded the once vaunted Spurs interior defense anchored by Timothy Duncan.



No, you rationalized like Spurs fanboy. Blocked shots are not necessarily the end all be all of interior defense but every elite team needs the threat a lane protector in order to establish elite team defense. Tim had been that guy for years but he no longer protects the paint with the same authority. Not only have his blocks gone down but so have his altered shots. It happens to everyone as they get old; you just aren't as fast on your feet.



Nope, not at all. The Lakers play elite defense. See the 2010 NBA playoffs as evidence. If you were rational minded you'd acknowledge that fact before you proclaimed anything to the contrary.





Really? That's your poor woe is me, we're San Antonio not LA violin playing? lol

Please. If you can break down the game based on observation you can determine what you need to know about any player. I've seen Tiago play and he's ok. He's not a game changer but he can be a contributor if he picks up the NBA game and fits in with his teammates. That in a nuts will be how his season will play out. His passing ability is solid... Sabonis-level? lol Uhh, no. Funny that you've "heard" it could be at that level.

If you've seen him play you wouldn't have to "hear" anything. Just another example of overzealous fanboy hype via the internet.

Best post I've seen from anybody anywhere on this entire forum.

HISTORY2B IN DA HOOUSE!!

[Trainwreck2100]

I happen to think that the Spurs not being contenders is a lot funnier than me not being able to start a thread on a pathetic message board filled with delusional Spurs cronies who would like the crap off Tim Duncan's ass after each dump he takes.

and yet here you are

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

They fall into the category of "pretenders" despite the "benefit of the doubt" given to this old washed up team that manages to make the playoffs every year.

Here are the facts:

- Tim Duncan has declined too much
- Manu is an glass ankle snap away from not playing
- Parker is an overrated no defense euro chucking softie
- Richard Jefferson was the worst pick up in the summer of 09
- No elite perimeter defenders to guard the elite wings
- Tims interior defense has fallen off too much
- No real shot blocking presence on the team
- Tiago Splitter's hyped arrival ignores his massive deficiencies on defense and on the boards

Few bright spots include:

- George Hill appears to be a solid PG of the future on both ends of the floor
- Dejuan Blair could prove to be a solid energy role player off the bench
- Pop is still a great coach

Projection:

45 wins - 7th seed in the West - 1st round loss in the playoffs

They are the next dynasty in the making with the GREAT TIAGO "OLAJUWON" SPLITTER.

[history2b]

They are the next dynasty in the making with the GREAT TIAGO "OLAJUWON" SPLITTER.

yeah, didn't you hear? Tiago is the best defender / rebounder in europe and I've heard his passing skills are on the level of Arvydas Sabonis!!

Shine up that #5 trophy cause here we come!!

[z0sa]

lol butthurt

[history2b]

lol butthurt

lol stalker.

[z0sa]

lol stalker.

lol posting on a public forum yet imagining people stalk you.

You really need to inquire about those meds.

[history2b]

lol posting on a public forum yet imagining people stalk you.

You really need to inquire about those meds.

lol, sorry, I meant man stalker.

[ChumpDumper]

lol posting on a message board he calls pathetic.

[history2b]

- Cyberstalking is a crime in which the attacker harasses a victim using electronic communication, such as email or instant messaging (IM), or messages posted to a Web site or a discussion group. A cyberstalker relies upon the anonymity afforded by the Internet to allow them to stalk their victim without being detected. Cyberstalking messages differ from ordinary spam in that a cyberstalker targets a specific victim with often threatening messages, while the spammer targets a mul ude of recipients with simply annoying messages.



Be sure to read the whole thing thoroughly before replying with another idiotic stalker-inspired response man lover.

[history2b]

lol posting on a message board he calls pathetic.

It's called slumming it.

[z0sa]

you gonna call the Cyber Police? maybe backtrace it?

[ChumpDumper]

It's called slumming it.

lol slumming it every day means you are a slumdweller.

lol ESPN boards.

[history2b]

you gonna call the Cyber Police? maybe backtrace it?

I'm not going to call anyone, lol. I'll give you my home address if you'd like.

But again, I'm a truth teller and you are a cyber stalker. That is exactly what you are doing. At first you tried to deny it but now that you see the legal definition you are no longer denying it but rather electing to say "what are you going to do tell on me?"

Lol @ the anonymous man stalker.

[Man In Black]

I thought you were back to talking basketball? You need a new game plan because the wow us with your lack of basketball intellect plan is CLEARLY not working.

So you're an asshole with an opinion.
You could be right, but WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG? Be prepared to reap what you sow.
The LAL ain't getting that 3peat, unless of course, the collusion is in play...then...is it really earned, or given?

It's time to play ball!!!! Let's see what happens. Phil's stroke of 3's end starting this evening...you just don't know it yet

[ChumpDumper]

- Cyberstalking is a crime in which the attacker harasses a victim using electronic communication, such as email or instant messaging (IM), or messages posted to a Web site or a discussion group. A cyberstalker relies upon the anonymity afforded by the Internet to allow them to stalk their victim without being detected. Cyberstalking messages differ from ordinary spam in that a cyberstalker targets a specific victim with often threatening messages, while the spammer targets a mul ude of recipients with simply annoying messages.



Be sure to read the whole thing thoroughly before replying with another idiotic stalker-inspired response man lover.

Sorry you feel so threatened and scared.

[history2b]

lol slumming it every day means you are a slumdweller.

lol ESPN boards.

I'm not here every day.

The ESPN boards are in pretty poor shape these days but they are still far away better than this hole. The largest congregation of pussified fans in one setting.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I thought you were back to talking basketball? You need a new game plan because the wow us with your lack of basketball intellect plan is CLEARLY not working.

So you're an asshole with an opinion.
You could be right, but WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG? Be prepared to reap what you sow.
The LAL ain't getting that 3peat, unless of course, the collusion is in play...then...is it really earned, or given?

It's time to play ball!!!! Let's see what happens. Phil's stroke of 3's end starting this evening...you just don't know it yet

wishful thinking ftw

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not here every day.

The ESPN boards are in pretty poor shape these days but they are still far away better than this hole. The largest congregation of pussified fans in one setting.

Which is why you post here hundreds of times.

[history2b]

Sorry you feel so threatened and scared.

That is what you deducted from the message.

Wow, Spurs fans. Going back to school to complete your GED is still an option you know.