LOL Lebron, LOL Heat, LOL JJ Hickson

[21_Blessings]

Scott and CP3 were golfing buddies.

Scott raised him. Doesn't mean they didn't have father/son issues.

[Pelicans78]

1) Yeah nice sample size.

2) The team quit on him. You can blame Scott, that's fine. But CP3 is just as much to blame. Not to mention the team just wasn't very good.

3) It was clearly obvious Scott wanted to leave. . Phil was talking about retiring and B-Scott wanted a shot at his dream Lakers job.



The Nets had more talent post-Byron scott and how many times did they go to the finals?

Kidd Kenyon Martin and Keith Van Horn. Yeah loads of talent The Hornets had Monster Mash, All-Star version of Magloire () and a young B-diddy. Celts with Pierce, Anderson and Walker. It's arguable.

End of the day 2 straight finals appearances = overachieving. Especially when they gave the Spurs a run for their money, no denying that. The talent argument is lame. Results is what matters.

You left out Jefferson and Kerry Kittles plus a decent bench.

Anderson was never good for the Celtics. He was terrible and a s of the player he was in New Jersey.

Mashburn was never healthy for the Hornets in the playoffs. He missed so many playoff games in 2002 and 2003.

Again, Scott was a solid coach, but Kidd and CP3 ran his teams for him. He did little coaching when it mattered. That's why he couldn't adjust to when his teams started to struggle.

[Pelicans78]

Scott raised him. Doesn't mean they didn't have father/son issues.

They got along great even at the end. CP3 was angry when Scott got fired. That's a fact. His time was up and the Hornets needed to move on. He never played younger players because he couldn't coach them up which is why the Hornets kept acquiring veteran after veteran. Once Scott got removed, Collison and Thornton started to blossom. Collison was traded because he wasn't going to be as valuable as a backup so they got Ariza and dumped Posey's salary. Ariza isn't great, but he gives them a defensive presence on the perimeter and can run the floor with CP3. Collison was only going to get at the most 15-20 minutes per night.

[21_Blessings]

You left out Jefferson and Kerry Kittles

Thanks for proving that they overachieved.

Again, Scott was a solid coach, but Kidd and CP3 ran his teams for him. He did little coaching when it mattered. That's why he couldn't adjust to when his teams started to struggle.

Yeah he is a solid coach. Claiming he didn't coach when it mattered is quite dumb though. The fact is he coached when it mattered and his teams went places. When he stopped giving (like last year) he lost the team. Can't blame him though. Who wouldn't want a shot at the Lakers job?

They got along great even at the end. CP3 was angry when Scott got fired. That's a fact.

There was a load of rumblings that they were sparring in practice/during games. Which makes sense considering Scott is a hardass and CP3 is a litte . I'm sure they had a great interpersonal relationship though.

The original sentence was more referring to the Kidd driving him out. I wasn't implying CP3 is the sole reason Scott was gone but it was undeniably a part of it.

You're being pretty ing naive if you think unloading Collison wasn't due to the CP3 tantrum this summer. Funny how the trade rumors vanished after Collison was dumped.

[lefty]

hahahahahahaha. Lebron makes his teammates worse. Everyone saw it last night. The Heat looked like the old Cavs. Mike Brown will be a top coach in the NBA again. Lebron just holds onto the ball and his teammates stand around and watch.

Lol butthurt

[TheMACHINE]

who has Lebron made better anyways? Everyone who teams up with him seems to have worst numbers. lol

[Pelicans78]

Yeah he is a solid coach. Claiming he didn't coach when it mattered is quite dumb though. The fact is he coached when it mattered and his teams went places. When he stopped giving (like last year) he lost the team. Can't blame him though. Who wouldn't want a shot at the Lakers job?

He lost the team before last season. The playoffs showed that.

Shows how delusional he was if he thought he was a candidate for the Lakers job. Everyone knows CP3 was the real coach as was Kidd in New Jersey. Scott was just along for the ride.

[Pelicans78]

You're being pretty ing naive if you think unloading Collison wasn't due to the CP3 tantrum this summer. Funny how the trade rumors vanished after Collison was dumped.

Of course his tantrum was the catalyst for all the moves they made this summer. Fired the GM, hired a new one, traded Collison for Ariza, revamped the bench and starting lineup. Collison had more value as a starter for another team than a backup here. That's a fact. Ariza isn't anything special, but his defense will make a big impact like it did tonight in the 4th quarter against Salmons and Maggette. Collison was only going to get 15-20 minutes on this team.

[Koolaid_Man]

I talk as much as anybody, but I never disappear, I'm always here to admit when I'm wrong..

whateva you ing say ChrisRichards...we could give 2 s you sticking around to admit you wrong...we only want you to stick around to give up that ass....

[z0sa]

whateva you ing say ChrisRichards...we could give 2 s you sticking around to admit you wrong...we only want you to stick around to give up that ass....

lol gay

[Double-Up]

there are still cavs fans out there?

You think this guy would have offed himself by now.

[Chris Fall]

whateva you ing say ChrisRichards...we could give 2 s you sticking around to admit you wrong...we only want you to stick around to give up that ass....

Kool gettin his on

tee hee

[Venti Quattro]

cavs get in playoffs this year

vs the heat

it's going to be ing special

[Phillip]

Let's see if they win another 60 games like they have been doing the last few years with Lebron. Individual players may rack up better stat totals without Lebron there, but thats normal because they will have more chances to. But it wont neccesarily equate to a winning season. I have a hard time seeing the Cavs win more than 41 games.

[HarlemHeat37]

hahahahahahaha. Lebron makes his teammates worse. Everyone saw it last night. The Heat looked like the old Cavs. Mike Brown will be a top coach in the NBA again. Lebron just holds onto the ball and his teammates stand around and watch.

Not really, but Byron Scott will be. He overachieved in New Jersey and NO before his piece of whiny point guard turned the team against him. He'll overachieve in Cleveland once again.

I could have been an all star years ago if it wasn't for that ball dominating cancer.

Mike Brown is a defensive guru, and last night proved that the ty offense the Cavs had for the last 5 years had everything to do with the Queen and not with Mike Brown.

cavs get in playoffs this year

who has Lebron made better anyways? Everyone who teams up with him seems to have worst numbers. lol

Cavs, 8 losses in a row and have given up on the season..

Thunder Dan, disappearing again..

[Cry Havoc]

Cavs, 8 losses in a row and have given up on the season..

Thunder Dan, disappearing again..

What are you talking about? The Cavs are an elite team. LeBron had fantastic guys around him for his 7 years in Cleveland. Mo Williams should be a perennial all-star. Antawn Jamison is one of the best all around players in the league. JJ Hickson could have a Duncan-esque career, or at the very least be an Amare-type big man.. There's no way the Cavs are a 60+ win team for 2 seasons if they don't have a ton of great players. It's not just LeBron, because it's impossible for one player to have that much of an impact...

[Ace]

but the bulls did it

[ezzizle]

lol @ Mo Williams perennial all star.

[Cry Havoc]

but the bulls did it

Larry Hughes >= Scottie Pippen. Obviously. Cavs are just loaded with talent. They have at least 3 guys who can rebound like the Worm.

[HarlemHeat37]

@ these guys.. @ Blessings' love for Byron Scott..

[HarlemHeat37]

Bump x 2.. @ these guys, Blessings at it again..

[ALVAREZ6]

hahahahahahaha. Lebron makes his teammates worse. Everyone saw it last night. The Heat looked like the old Cavs. Mike Brown will be a top coach in the NBA again. Lebron just holds onto the ball and his teammates stand around and watch.

yeah....the butthurt isn't completely obvious in this one

You would have done anything to keep LBJ in Cleveland, as the rest of the city tried. Stop talking nonsense. And LMAO @ Mike Brown being a top coach AGAIN...you need to be one period before being a top coach again.


25 consecutive losses CROFL