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So you are really alleging that GHWB and Prescott have no common thread between them? That without some connecting of the dots by me, almost a century after the fact, the connection is to attenuated to be seen at first blush? Really?
It's your claim.
What a weak attempt to run away from your own argument.
So you are really alleging that GHWB and Prescott have no common thread between them? That without some connecting of the dots by me, almost a century after the fact, the connection is to attenuated to be seen at first blush? Really?
You stretch my posts even to arrive at that weak point. You are the one claiming debunk without even touching my first three posts.
You would prefer to flounder about on this single point, because its the only hand-hold you have before you slip over the edge of the cliff...the one where you are shown to have no reply to the OP's assertion.
What a waste of time.
It is definitely a waste of time asking you to back up your claims.
youre reticence to touch the OP says it all. Anything else?
Your reticence to back up your own claim says it all.
Anything else?
Circlejerk, defined:
To kneel in a circle with others and pleasure oneself. Also refers to a pompous, self-congratulatory discussion where little to no progress is made.
as in...
1. "I just walked in on a circlejerk yesterday; it was terrible!"
2. "Did you catch that board meeting? Man, what a circlejerk!"
You can break the impasse easily by telling us what the Bush family now controls.
And give you the satisfaction of the real circle jerk? I'm not strokin' your strawman chump.
You can't even make a decent metaphor.
You look like a fool.
Again.
It's not my fault you don't know what you are talking about and are too afraid to back up the claims you make.
It's fun watching you throw yourself under the bus.
I would challenge you to even back THAT statement up, if I gave a .
You are grasping at air now.
You won't back up your own claim.I would challenge you to even back THAT statement up, if I gave a .
You are grasping at air now.
That is my statement.
Addressing the OP, it's not in schoolbooks because so much information is simply missing due to the wishes of FDR himself. That's why the names Smedley named aren't found and that's why no one named had to testify and that's why no one had to serve time or die for whatever crimes may have been committed.
Given as much time as I can remember the Great Depression's receiving in schoolbooks, this plot probably would have been thrown in with whatever other radical solutions were being proposed during that time.
Thats a solid take.
It also reminds me alot of Obama's decision not to investigate the Bush administration for any illegal torture or perjury involving the Iraq war.
In exchange for not pursuing investigations of the alleged conspirators, FDR got a lot of resistance to his New Deal programs dropped.
It was definitely an example of political expediency, but at the same time it was probably for the best. It's really kind of unimaginable what might have happened if a putsch of elite American businessmen had resulted complete with show trials and executions.
BTW, the Prescott Bush connection to this plot is shaky if at all existent. His dealings with folks like Thyssen could be seen as amoral rather than a reflection of his political beliefs. Whatever was seized from the companies in which he was involved was returned after the war.
i'll bite...
i think a lot of people know about this, i've heard it many times before, including in a couple US universities. but like so many other subjects that lack hard proof and fall into the "conspiracy" segment, no one bothers to dig any deeper or mention it because it immediately discredits your credibility. unless you can prove it, its hearsay, an isolated incident, not a reliable source, whatever. of course there is bat crazy stuff out there but certain things, like the quote you posted... you just know, its obvious, things have worked that way for a long time. its the primal root of existence, the fight for power; the US didnt become the world power just selling cars. unfortunately, this knowledge that powerful banks are behind a powerful military in order to secure more power for themselves is just the evolution of a timeless truth.
as for what bush or any other industry/politician/banker/conspirator got "control" over, well they got control over money, connections up the wazoo, and money. has there ever been a deeper goal?
The way you teach it, no. It's not worth teaching.
Because it came as a surprise to him, Parker treats it as if it were still an official secret. It is not.
That at least makes sense. What Parker was saying made almost none.
Probably not.
Look, the quasi-dynastic succession of Bushes and Clintons bugs me too. But pointing at the Businessmen's Plot gets us precisely nowhere. Parker doesn't even try to connect the dots. He just lists them, throws out the qui bono, and infers delayed causality ("Decades later..."). Lame.
(sighs deeply)
Fine, be careful what you ask for.
Please provide proof to support his claim.
Extra-ordinary claims require extra-ordinary evidence.
I think we will find that you have a lot fewer dots to connect than you seem to think you have.
In 1934 Butler testified to the McCormack- stein Congressional committee on these claims
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
and there's lots of other sources, books that have the same info.
Some interesting comments here
http://www.amazon.com/Plot-Seize-Whi...owViewpoints=1
VRWC has long history and long legs.
Another Great American Myth is that VRWC did not/cannot/does not exist in America.
This is the best possible argument that could be made on the other side of things, IMHO. Chump is my hero.The dude really has his together.
For the rest of the gallery who attempted to shout down the subject with little to no substance, you came up short.
And you throw out nothing of value, and continue the personal attacks. Just as lame.
Take a look in the mirror homie.
bs and personal attacks are about all you do, so I guess you'd be the expert on that.
While there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause, the do ents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade. (When it was apparent Hitler was bat crazy) The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen's US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war.
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