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    Great news for the Spurs, Parker, and the fans.

    Kudos to both sides for resolving this so early in the process. It's just fantastic that we can all look forward to Tim, Tony, and Manu all completing their careers in San Antonio.
    +1

    I feel this year can be something really special.

    Just a gut feeling.

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    Awsome!

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    I actually quoted you because you made the dumb ass comment. It makes sense that when the person makes a blanket comment, that he or she is quoted.

    I still very well could hurt the rebuilding process and getting TP at a steal had nothing to do with RJ's contact. The Spurs are still LT payers next year.


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    Way to go...."Pete Holt" (best Arrested Development voice)!!!

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    You are free to do what you want, but it's pointless. All the "RJ haters" have been grasping at straws trying to imagine negative ramifications and panic stricken scenarios where RJ's contract was going to lock the Spurs out of making any other beneficial deals and mire the team in bottom dweller territory for years. Now that this argumentative artifice is crumbling, it's just a good idea to let it go. There is nothing to be gained by arguing this point any further.
    at Cuckolds calling scoreboard 3 years early...

    Also at Cuckolds speaking out of both sides of their mouth: "See, RJ's contract wouldn't effect TP's contract" while at the same time saying "Tiago would not have been here if not for RJ's opt out"

    at using TP's contract as a sign that says RJ's contract is good.

    Most of the RJ contract haters never believed TP would be the casualty (see my post on the matter). What we did say is that they robbed Peter (not a LT payer this that we know of) to pay Paul (extending TP all but guarantees they are LT payers next year).

    None of that changes because of this signing. Bunch of scoreboard calling s...

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    It has always been pretty simple.
    The spurs organization from the top down has always been straightforward.

    Spurs players are pretty much , honest and straightforward. Tim,Tony & Manu are three of the simplest, most honorable NBA players.

    They have integrity and don't play mind games.
    Ask any of them a question and they answer it honestly. No coyness, no games & no false bravado like a Kobe or a Lebron would do.

    If a team beats them-they admit that the other team was better, Kobe would answer the question by sayin that he could score at any time and he just happened to allow the other team to get away-or some such bull .

    TP has answered truthfully from the get-go....but people here and everywhere else CHOSE to try and not believe it.

    People are so used to bull that when they hear a spurs player say something-they look for the bull - instead of just believing the truth.

    Tony never, ever said anything different except that he wanted to be a spur.

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    at Cuckolds calling scoreboard 3 years early...
    lol word of the day calendar
    lol not knowing definition
    lol random non-sensical quoting

    Also at Cuckolds speaking out of both sides of their mouth: "See, RJ's contract wouldn't effect TP's contract" while at the same time saying "Tiago would not have been here if not for RJ's opt out"
    Never said either one of those things. Again, quote somebody else.

    at using TP's contract as a sign that says RJ's contract is good.
    Again, didn't happen.

    Most of the RJ contract haters never believed TP would be the casualty (see my post on the matter). What we did say is that they robbed Peter (not a LT payer this that we know of) to pay Paul (extending TP all but guarantees they are LT payers next year).

    None of that changes because of this signing. Bunch of scoreboard calling s...
    Some did, some didn't . . . lol assuming I'm talking about you even though I didn't address you or quote you. Paranoid much? Self-obsessed rather? lol "see my post" . . . WOW! The Peter/Paul thing is played out, dude. btw tbh imo . . . .

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    +1

    I feel this year can be something really special.

    Just a gut feeling.
    if the last ten years has shown anything, it's that you need to have perimiter defense to win a chmapionship. Spurs aren't getting further than the 3rd round if they can't trade for someone that shores up their perimiter defense (or one of George Hill or Anderson step it up big time in that respect, which i think is unlikely), which is not at contender status at this point.

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    First, we have no idea what a LT payer will look like next year. We don't know how contracts signed before the renegotiation will be handled, whether they're grandfathered or altogether altered.

    Secondly, even if the Spurs find themselves a taxpayer next year, it will very likely only be a technicality. The Spurs save $16-17M this year if they remain below the tax, therefore if they don't exceed the savings they're not making any new expenditures, they've just managed to pay at a later date, one that would make the books more palatable.

    More often than not, the Spurs know what they're doing financially. It seems they believed they had to give a little to get, and RJ was the beneficiary.

    And with the way things are playing out, it's hard to argue with the way they've gone about their business thus far.

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    Good news !

    I'd have found it so weird to see one of the Big 3 with a non spurs jersey

    Quite surprised by that 50 M deal though...

    Anyway, Parker will make +110 M dollars over his career (+ ad contracts) so don't expect me to praise Parker for ''giving up'' +10 millions dollars.

    You are not underpaid when you get millions and millions of dollars to put an orange ball in a basket
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    Played out, true. Same difference.

    lol responding to Bump's troll like he is a real person.

    lol not knowing how the word Cuckold is used on ST.

    Also, lol at the most self conscious butt hurt dude on the site saying something

    "Grey 4 life!!!" See it is a joke, I am not serious because I put it in my avatar and I used the number 4 instead of "for"!!!!!!!!!!

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    First, we have no idea what a LT payer will look like next year. We don't know how contracts signed before the renegotiation will be handled, whether they're grandfathered or altogether altered.

    Secondly, even if the Spurs find themselves a taxpayer next year, it will very likely only be a technicality. The Spurs save $16-17M this year if they remain below the tax, therefore if they don't exceed the savings they're not making any new expenditures, they've just managed to pay at a later date, one that would make the books more palatable.

    More often than not, the Spurs know what they're doing financially. It seems they believed they had to give a little to get, and RJ was the beneficiary.

    And with the way things are playing out, it's hard to argue with the way they've gone about their business thus far.
    Sure, but that does not change the fact that a bunch of little score-boarding s run around here like TP's contracts confirms everything about RJ's.

    RJ's contract was a bad one. End of story. Now, could it end up working out? Sure. But when the contract was paid, the player himself was overpaid by a lot and no external reasoning changes that.

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    I don't get why it is so difficult to understand RJ's contract.

    The Spurs avoid tax this season, a tax that may cease to exist after the new CBA is negotiated.

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    Wow thats an awsome news for TP and the Spurs !!!

    I agree with timvp, Tony has to fire his agent, 50 M / 4 years is a bargain for the Spurs.

    I think the FNT influenced this contract, if true, it shows two things: the very strong relation between TP and the Spurs and the real Tony's passion for the FNT.

    BTW TP haters can suck his ass !

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    Thank you Jesus!!! I'm sooo happy that we're keeping both of our pgs. Parker and Hill make an explosive 1-2 punch.

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    Played out, true. Same difference.

    lol responding to Bump's troll like he is a real person.

    lol not knowing how the word Cuckold is used on ST.

    Also, lol at the most self conscious butt hurt dude on the site saying something

    "Grey 4 life!!!" See it is a joke, I am not serious because I put it in my avatar and I used the number 4 instead of "for"!!!!!!!!!!
    What's with the personal attack, dude. Are you so "butthurt" that I don't even have to mention your name anymore? lol thinking I give a about your little "forum fantasy world". Weak. I expect better from you.


    Where did I call scoreboard?

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    I don't get why it is so difficult to understand RJ's contract.

    The Spurs avoid tax this season, a tax that may cease to exist after the new CBA is negotiated.

    Gotta have a whipping boy...

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    great ing day for portnoy and parker2112

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    Sure, but that does not change the fact that a bunch of little score-boarding s run around here like TP's contracts confirms everything about RJ's.

    RJ's contract was a bad one. End of story. Now, could it end up working out? Sure. But when the contract was paid, the player himself was overpaid by a lot and no external reasoning changes that.
    I'm just looking at this from the Spurs view, I couldn't care less about the score-boarding -- after all, I've got a vested interest in DPG with my sponsorship.

    If you want to say RJ's overpaid and it's a bad contract in that respect, not sure how anyone could argue. But it's not looking to be a bad contract when it comes to the Spurs and their front office.

    They guaranteed they'd be a taxpayer for 2 years when they traded for RJ, but refinancing RJ allowed them to save $16-17M in a year they were supposed to pay tax. They'll likely be a taxpayer next year, which would be what they expected all along (Jefferson equaling 2 years of taxpayer status), but they may not -- or it could be an easier pill to swallow after the savings and CBA renegotiation.

    I'm just glad we're gonna have a compe ive team for a long while now and that the Spurs are giving themselves the opportunity to finish strong with the Big 3.

    Good day to be Spurfan.

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    Wow thats an awsome news for TP and the Spurs !!!

    I agree with timvp, Tony has to fire his agent, 50 M / 4 years is a bargain for the Spurs.
    Have you checked out the glut of good point guards in the NBA?

    This is a great deal for the Spurs and TP.

    But to say this is somehow inexplicable or that TP's agent screwed up is to fail to view the NBA market for PGs (many of them young) as it is.

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    What's with the personal attack, dude. Are you so "butthurt" that I don't even have to mention your name anymore? lol thinking I give a about your little "forum fantasy world". Weak. I expect better from you.
    Personal attacks? Like saying someone is paranoid and self obsessed? Keep in mind, you are the guy who said this in the same thread:

    "HA!

    The sooner everyone realizes that I am always right, the better off we will all be. I'm not gloating, I just care about you"

    Just because someone calls you one on your little faults (everyone has them), does not mean they are attacking you. We all call each other out on here...especially those who interact a lot.


    Where did I call scoreboard?
    See above quote...Using TP's contract as a means to say "Ha!" to RJ's makes little sense to me.

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    I don't get why it is so difficult to understand RJ's contract.

    The Spurs avoid tax this season, a tax that may cease to exist after the new CBA is negotiated.
    Sure, most of us understand that. That does not mean RJ the player was not overpaid.

    40M no matter what is too much for RJ. If it wasn't, another team would have offered him the same or more to pry him away in an off season that saw guys like Petro and Outlaw get sizable contracts.

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