Pau Gasol or Dirk Nowitzki?

[MavFan6488]

discuss. i'm voting for dirk of course. to me, it's not even close. don't get me wrong, gasol is a very good player, but he has KOBE on his team, arguably the best player in the world. he has the best coach in the world. dirk has caron butler (josh howard v2) and rick carlisle, kinda unfair..

i just don't see why people say gasol > dirk nowadays, just because he won 2 'chips as a kobe side kick?

[LeHeat_Dynasty]

Both possess a high basketball IQ, can run the floor pretty well and knows how to punish the defense when teams come off to double them. Dirk has more range therefore he's the better offensive player, Gasol is the better defender and is a much fluid player down low.


Dirk has always been a 1st option talent while Gasol IMO is the perfect second option to a demanding perimeter player. I don't think Nowitzki and Kobe would have the same amount of success together, and while we're at it, I also don't believe Gasol can ever lead Dallas to a 60 win season and reach the Finals as its main focal point of offense.


So who do I pick? I'd choose Dirk if I want a franchise player and I'd take Gasol if I want to supplement my Superstar with a legitimate second option.

[monosylab1k]

die

[La Mont]

dirk gets my vote if its a election of who is softer.

[21_Blessings]

lol 5-0 Gasol.

I gave Dirk a pity vote.

[Muser]

Dirk.

[Koolaid_Man]

Both possess a high basketball IQ, can run the floor pretty well and knows how to punish the defense when teams come off to double them. Dirk has more range therefore he's the better offensive player, Gasol is the better defender and is a much fluid player down low.


Dirk has always been a 1st option talent while Gasol IMO is the perfect second option to a demanding perimeter player. I don't think Nowitzki and Kobe would have the same amount of success together, and while we're at it, I also don't believe Gasol can ever lead Dallas to a 60 win season and reach the Finals as its main focal point of offense.


So who do I pick? I'd choose Dirk if I want a franchise player and I'd take Gasol if I want to supplement my Superstar with a legitimate second option.

flawed analysis...you have zero basis for saying Dirk has a high BBall IQ other than the fact he's German and 7 ft tall...there's nothing special about the run and gun offense in which Dallas operate. Gasol on the other-hand plays in the TRI and we all know the intricacies of learning the TRI...so we can safely surmise that the high IQ portion for Gasol is accurate.

more of your flawed analysis...Dirk is better offensively because he has more range...and yet he's never been able to use that range ( when it counts) to his teams advantage. The truth is that Gasol is the better offensive and defensive player. Dirk has 3 point range but Gasol is the better low-post and all around offensive player..Gasol is ambidextrous..he can go with either hand and has an array of moves...Dirk is basically a one trick pony...

more more more more of your flawed analysis....

Dirk has always been a 1st option talent while Gasol IMO is the perfect second option to a demanding perimeter player.

Gasol was 1st option prior to 08 and the only difference in teams success was overall talent. Dirk has always had a much better supporting cast while Gasol was in Memphis...The real problem in Dallas is that Dirk is masquerading as a 1st option player when he's really not. Dirk would have way more success if he played second banana much like Gasol is right now...however, I don't think Kobe-Dirk combo would be effective as Kobe-Gasol simply because Dirk is way more of a Pussy than Gasol ever was or will be. Dirk is a and I don't say that lightly and I'm not being biased...he would completely fold against KG, Perk, Shaq, Dwight, or any other big man...Gasol has proven that he can hold his own...

Gasol all day and tomorrow over Dirk....now that's real talk...LeHeat...

[BUMP]

lol 5-0 Gasol.

I gave Dirk a pity vote.

Agreed. He did lead the Lakers to back to back championships.

[mavsfan1000]

Dirk easily. He carries his team. Lakers are loaded with talent. Makes Gasol's job much easier.

[ohmwrecker]

i just don't see why people say gasol > dirk nowadays, just because he won 2 'chips as a kobe side kick?

Kobe is Pau's sidekick.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Dirk obviously. Stop being a silly goose.

[Giuseppe]

Well, if you pick up Dirk, you have to make room for his f'in shine box in the back seat.

If you pick Gasol, you have to include Kobe, cuz Pau was like O & Forever afore Kobe shined his f'in light on him & showed him which end was like up.

[JamStone]

Before last season, I'd take Dirk no question. I think last year, Pau became the better player. He's not the prolific scorer Dirk is, but he's still a capable 20 point scorer and he's better at pretty much every other facet of the game. He had become an elite rebounder and a very good defender. I still think Pau has his lapses where he lacks toughness, but I also think he's taken huge strides as a player. Now it's true that he plays second fiddle to Kobe while Dirk is the #1 guy in Dallas. Even taking that into consideration, I think Pau passed Dirk last year. If I need a guy to come through to score 30 points, I'd still take Dirk. I still think he's more clutch too. But if the question involves who the better player is now, I'd take Pau over Dirk.

[Giuseppe]

If I need a guy to come through to score 30 points, I'd still take Dirk.

Well, pish posh.

[Muser]

Dirk has Butler. Gasol has Kobe.

[Giuseppe]

^I thought Kobe had Gasol, Muse?

tee, hee.

[Muser]

They both need eachother.

[21_Blessings]

And Parker has Timmy/Manu.

Still not enough to win one game against a Suns team that peaked 4 years ago.

[Giuseppe]

21, gettin' his JC on....Sunday Mornin' Comin' Down.

[mavsfan1000]

Dirk has Butler. Gasol has Kobe.

lol Butler is not even close to Kobe. Take into consideration how much better the Lakers bench is as well.

[Giuseppe]

Hard to see Dirk without the HD. Him loitering the arc like some f'in cheerleader.

[Muser]

lol Butler is not even close to Kobe. Take into consideration how much better the Lakers bench is as well.

That was my point.

[Lukor]

another one of these polls? Must be the 100th time...

[LeHeat_Dynasty]

I'm not even going to respond in depth why Dirk is a much better offensive player than Gasol. Just look at Dirk's career peak points per game average and compare that to Gasol. Not even a question really, unless of course, you just want to stroll and troll and get a rise out of Mavs fans in this board KAM.

[monosylab1k]

Before last season, I'd take Dirk no question. I think last year, Pau became the better player. He's not the prolific scorer Dirk is, but he's still a capable 20 point scorer and he's better at pretty much every other facet of the game. He had become an elite rebounder and a very good defender. I still think Pau has his lapses where he lacks toughness, but I also think he's taken huge strides as a player. Now it's true that he plays second fiddle to Kobe while Dirk is the #1 guy in Dallas. Even taking that into consideration, I think Pau passed Dirk last year. If I need a guy to come through to score 30 points, I'd still take Dirk. I still think he's more clutch too. But if the question involves who the better player is now, I'd take Pau over Dirk.

I don't agree that Pau is better than Dirk, mainly cuz Dirk's made a career of ass raping Pau when they go head to head.

But I am coming around on the notion that Pau is a better player for the Lakers. I used to think it was ridiculous to say Dirk couldn't make the Lakers a better team than Pau, but now I believe it.

Trade Dirk for Pau last season, and both teams are worse. The Mavericks don't make the playoffs with Pau, and the Lakers definitely lose to Boston with Dirk, in fact they might have gotten beat by OKC or Phoenix.