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  1. #26
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    You don't think having to carry a load roughly twice as large as Odom's matters? Well, we can only agree to disagree. Bosh will have to score, will have to rebound, will have to defend for the Heat to have a chance. Bump this in 25 games..
    Not on the Heat where he is a role player. If he could fulfill a Lamar Odom like game, boarding with the best of them, aptly defend and score around 15 a game he'd be doing well for them.

    Your "roughly twice the load" estimation is garbage.

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    Odom is definitely the more talented and gifted player. He is one of the most talented/gifted players the NBA has ever seen.
    lol

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    You consider supporting your team to be a miserable failure, which it never is.. try not being a frontrunning bag for a few years, and you will understand the logic of this.
    There is a difference between following your team and being a delusional homer out of touch with reality.

    Moreover, the op could just be rationalized as "supporting his team" and therefore all of your points rendered moot by your own line of thinking.

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    Moreover, the op could just be rationalized as "supporting his team" and therefore all of your points rendered moot by your own line of thinking.
    LOL thinking that's not exactly what happened.

    21_ is probably the biggest laker homer on this board, and that's saying something with fools like you around.

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    We were talking about 4 loko before it was on the news.

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    Odom has learned how to really be successful as a role player. Bosh has a ways to go before he's comfortable with his role. Might take some time for Bosh to learn how to excel as a third option role player.

    Plus, I think it's easier for a guy like Odom to play off two great players when one of them is also a big man. Pau and to an extent Bynum draw a lot of attention by opposing frontcourts. While Wade and LeBron are great players, Bosh will still command more attention in the frontcourt because he's playing next to Joel Anthony and Udonis Haslem. Bosh will generally be defended by the better defensive big man and it's easier to double him off of either Anthony or Haslem. I think that makes a difference. Replace either Wade or LeBron with an elite big man, like Gasol or Dwight Howard, and Bosh would have a lot more room to work with in the paint area, as opposed to being an afterthought on offense and relegated to a spot-up midrange jump shooter off of Wade or LeBron drives and kickouts.

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    This thread is garbage, but I'd rather have Odom on my team. Not saying he's a better player, I'm just saying he's the kind of guy I want on my team. I like his style.

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    Odom is obviously better than Bosh in a sidekick role. Odom passes better, defends better and just does about anything better than Bosh as a sidekick.

    Odom and Gasol are the only reason Kobe has a chance to win a ring without being the 2nd banana.

    Yes, Odom is that good.

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    great post bro

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    odom didn't even live up to his potential until gasol came over with his passing and all around play. gasol has definitely made odom a better player.

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    LO came into Lakers' training camp in great physical condition. He's started before so he is comfortable playing with our 1st unit. He knows the triangle inside and out and he is extremely versatile for someone his size.

    RuPaul is overrated. He gets more FGAs and has a better jumper than LO. Other than that, LO is the better player. Here are things LO does better than RuPaul:

    1. Rebounder. LO is an absolute beast on the boards.
    2. Facilitator/Passer. LO is a really good passer as a 6'10" dude.
    3. Defender. LO >>> RuPaul at defense.
    4. Versatile. LO played both guard positions and both forward positions in the triangle.

    Just wait until he brings ^these attributes to our 2nd unit. I could see him sky for a rebound, initiate a fast break, and dish to either of the Killer B's for a 3 or for a throwdown (it is going to be really scary for every team in the league when Big Drew returns). RuPaul can do none of the above sans being an opportunistic rebounder.

    Remember, LO used to play for the Hype. DWhistle loves him and so does Riles. I guarantee you that if they had the chance to choose between acquiring LO or RuPaul it would NOT be an easy decision for the Hype. They might still choose RuPaul, but I wouldn't doubt that they would have rather acquire LO to put with DWhistle and LeHype - because they know he can still be effective without the ball in his hands while letting them shine. LO is very unselfish in that regard.

    LO even one upped LeHype: lead his Olympic team to a gold medal without Kobe.


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    The WIRE!!!!!!

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    You LOL ..but he has a point. you do realize that Lamar was the number one player coming out of HS in the nation? Lamar has amazing talents but also some huge weakness as well. he sucks at FT's never fully developed his right hand or a consistent season to season jumper. bosh has done most of that.

    But what Lamar is he is a 6 ft 10 player that can pass, dribble and drive better than some guards. he can defend multiple positions. he is extremely talented, that is why it's so frustrating he has never even been an all-star. He has superstar talent but great 6th man or 3rd option production ...
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 11-01-2010 at 11:18 PM.

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    Haha, look how asshurt zosa is. You can tell he use to be a Mahini sucker.

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    Why do you laker fans feel the need to always compare something with the heat or talk about them ? Are you guys bothered or something ?

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    Couple of quick points about this garbage of a thread...........
    Ghazi is guzzler, 21 blessings fails again at a pathetic troll attempt

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    LOL..

    In the other thread, Blessings talks about how everybody talks about the Lakers "out of fear"..so far, he's made more Heat-related threads and comments than anybody on this forum..

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    You LOL ..but he has a point. you do realize that Lamar was the number one player coming out of HS in the nation? Lamar has amazing talents but also some huge weakness as well. he sucks at FT's never fully developed his left hand or a consistent season to season jumper. bosh has done most of that.

    But what Lamar is he is a 6 ft 10 player that can pass, dribble and drive better than some guards. he can defend multiple positios. he is extremely talented, that is why it's so frustrating he has never even been an all-star. He has superstar talent but great 6th man or 3rd option production ...
    I lol because he's Phillip, not to slight Odom.

    Odom is the quintessential 4th option, even 3rd option because of his ball handling and passing, though I'd take Bosh over him 10/10 times at this point still. Odom is a 6th man going against opposing benches and rebounding with an incredible frontcourt. Bosh IS the Heat frontcourt, at least concerning true big men, without the option of going to the bench explored yet.

    We'll see. Odom has certainly done spectacular to open this season.

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    I lol because he's Phillip, not to slight Odom.

    Odom is the quintessential 4th option, even 3rd option because of his ball handling and passing, though I'd take Bosh over him 10/10 times at this point still. Odom is a 6th man going against opposing benches and rebounding with an incredible frontcourt. Bosh IS the Heat frontcourt, at least concerning true big men, without the option of going to the bench explored yet.

    We'll see. Odom has certainly done spectacular to open this season.
    I agree with you Bosh IS better ...
    I'm just arguing that Lamar is more natural talent and athlete ...which is both an endorsement and an indictment of Lamar who has done less than bosh with more ...

  21. #46
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    What has Bosh actually done?

    Odom is a World Championship center and holds of these.

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    What has Bosh actually done?

    Odom is a World Championship center and holds of these.
    I meant as far as establishing himself as a "star" ...of course Lamar has done more Bosh can't even make the playoffs ...

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