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    So let them have your right to travel. What will you give them next?
    You obviously have nothing to lose. When you grow up and have things and people that are worth more than your convictions, youll understand.

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    You obviously have nothing to lose. When you grow up and have things and people that are worth more than your convictions, youll understand.
    You dont give up your rights just by flying. You give up your rights by accepting what your handing and swallowing it like you have no choice. You have a voice and that is your real power as an American. And if you dont use it, you are absolutely part of the problem.

    I gaurantee the first time I go through one, I will have hands on my genitals. I might just pull out my nuts for good measure. Me and the TSA officer are gong to get intimate. Might as well make us both uncomfortable.

    I spent a decade in the prison pat searching, strip searching and shaking down the property of convicted felons. Now, because of the "terror threat" that has us chasing oil and minerals abroad, I am going to be treated the same?

    Its a ing shame. And no American should stand for it without making their voice heard. If you allow them to take a yard, they are going to take 50.

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    I gaurantee the first time I go through one, I will have hands on my genitals. I might just pull out my nuts for good measure. Me and the TSA officer are gong to get intimate. Might as well make us both uncomfortable.
    Sigworthy.

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    You obviously have nothing to lose. When you grow up and have things and people that are worth more than your convictions, youll understand.
    What kind of security do you think these scanners and pat downs are giving you, the people you love or the things you want to protect?

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    @ElNono:

    I think DR already put himself down for "avoids flying."

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    @ElNono:

    I think DR already put himself down for "avoids flying."
    Ahhh... I missed that. Thanks

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    (DR didn't say so directly, but he implied as much.)

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    consider it done.

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    i strut through those airport scanners with pride. i have nothing to be ashamed about.

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    ick

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    i strut through those airport scanners with pride. i have nothing to be ashamed about.
    Airport body scanners 'could give you cancer', warns expert


    By Daily Mail Reporter
    Last updated at 11:25 AM on 30th June 2010

    Full body scanners at airports could increase your risk of skin cancer, experts warn.
    The X-ray machines have been brought in at Manchester, Gatwick and Heathrow.
    But scientists say radiation from the scanners has been underestimated and could be particularly risky for children.

    They say that the low level beam does deliver a small dose of radiation to the body but because the beam concentrates on the skin - one of the most radiation-sensitive organs of the human body - that dose may be up to 20 times higher than first estimated

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz143IYVQH1

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    Are you implying that only 'lib s' fly in airplanes or that you don't even have half a brain?
    No, I'm saying that only people who want the government to do things for them (liberal) and aren't smart enough to see it doesn't really stop someone with enough motivation, are for them.

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    ive also had many an expert examine my package and give two-thumbs up

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    No, I'm saying that only people who want the government to do things for them (liberal) and aren't smart enough to see it doesn't really stop someone with enough motivation, are for them.
    I dont think this reliance on govt for security is limited to liberals by any means, BUT....

    You hit on something very important here, WC: Would-be terrorists will continue to reach for new ways to reach us with an attack, and we the people will continue to lose our liberties, piece by piece.

    Once you grasp that, you really no longer have a choice but to raise your voice against the tyranny of big brother's protective grip.

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    ive also had many an expert examine my package and give two-thumbs up
    I have never had a complaint about my package either.

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    I dont think this reliance on govt for security is limited to liberals by any means, BUT....
    You're right. Most people don't take the time to really grasp the facts. However, it is normally liberals who have the cry for government intervention.

    You hit on something very important here, WC: Would-be terrorists will continue to reach for new ways to reach us with an attack, and we the people will continue to lose our liberties, piece by piece.
    I never agreed with the way airport security was change. This is an area I agree with you on. I think allowing the pilots to carry firearms and having locked sturdy doors to the pit is all we need.

    Give me a break. Box cutters. How many passengers can they take out until someone subdues them? Better than using the plane as a bomb. they went way overboard with airport security.

    Once you grasp that, you really no longer have a choice but to raise your voice against the tyranny of big brother's protective grip.
    I have always been against unnecessary authoritarianism. You embrace it at times.

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    No, I'm saying that only people who want the government to do things for them (liberal) and aren't smart enough to see it doesn't really stop someone with enough motivation, are for them.
    Seeing the TSA was purely a GOP concoction, you assessment couldn't be more wrong. Liberals certainly embraced the bas child, but pretending to anoint the creature to one side of the ideological aisle is indeed re ed.

    I also find it quite hilarious that the crusader for national security during the dubya's years now turns around and claims to require no protection. The false sense of security predates this administration. But only now you react about it? GMAFB.

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    What kind of security do you think these scanners and pat downs are giving you, the people you love or the things you want to protect?
    You missed the point or I didnt make it clear.

    I have no intention of causing a scene at the airport because of their security measures. Do I agree with the CT scans? No. The more aggressive pat-downs? Nope.

    But Parker suggested something to the effect that "What will you relinquish next?" that.

    Make a scene, get arrested. Refuse to go through the scanner/pat-down, you just wasted $$$ on the tickets because you arent getting through.

    Make a stand? For what? Again, too much to lose. A whole lot of sacrifice for a mediocre "problem". I'll just avoid flying, like I always do. Dont travel much, dont have to, dont want to. Nothing changes for me, personally.

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    A stand just means making your voice heard. what do you have to lose?

    As for avoiding flying, its not about getting scanned, its about getting shoved into a corner by big govt, which you seem very comfortable with.

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    You missed the point or I didnt make it clear.

    I have no intention of causing a scene at the airport because of their security measures. Do I agree with the CT scans? No. The more aggressive pat-downs? Nope.

    But Parker suggested something to the effect that "What will you relinquish next?" that.

    Make a scene, get arrested. Refuse to go through the scanner/pat-down, you just wasted $$$ on the tickets because you arent getting through.

    Make a stand? For what? Again, too much to lose. A whole lot of sacrifice for a mediocre "problem". I'll just avoid flying, like I always do. Dont travel much, dont have to, dont want to. Nothing changes for me, personally.
    Yeah, I missed the ' flying' post... nvm

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    Seeing the TSA was purely a GOP concoction, you assessment couldn't be more wrong. Liberals certainly embraced the bas child, but pretending to anoint the creature to one side of the ideological aisle is indeed re ed.
    In this case, authoritarians are involved.
    I also find it quite hilarious that the crusader for national security during the dubya's years now turns around and claims to require no protection. The false sense of security predates this administration. But only now you react about it? GMAFB.
    There is a big difference between actual protection and perceived protection. Some people see the difference, some don't.

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    In this case, authoritarians are involved.
    This is hilarious. So when GW was at the helm, it was ok to provide a false sense of security, but now that he's not, it's not ok.

    There is a big difference between actual protection and perceived protection. Some people see the difference, some don't.
    As far as the topic is concerned, they're not doing anything less than they were doing in the past. Maybe it was perceived protection from the get go and you missed that boat?

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    This is hilarious. So when GW was at the helm, it was ok to provide a false sense of security, but now that he's not, it's not ok.
    I challenge you to find any post in the past of mine where I agree with the amount of increased airport security.
    As far as the topic is concerned, they're not doing anything less than they were doing in the past. Maybe it was perceived protection from the get go and you missed that boat?
    Bull . they are doing allot not done before. Some if OK, but they are clearly overstepping.

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    This is hilarious. So when GW was at the helm, it was ok to provide a false sense of security, but now that he's not, it's not ok.
    Pretty much. Republican GOOD, Democrat BAD is the most extensive line of thinking for a lot of people. And the converse is true as well, it's just not as rampant and doesn't generally involve as many depictions of Hitler.

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