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[MannyIsGod]

Not in Oregon. It is a different allocation of money. It's revenue stream in mandated in law.

Man are you dense. Oregon is not able to entirely fund their road system through gas tax and even if you add in the vehicle taxes its not enough.

So where does the deficit get filled from WC? Magical money trees or the general fund?

[Wild Cobra]

Man are you dense. Oregon is not able to entirely fund their road system through gas tax and even if you add in the vehicle taxes its not enough.

So where does the deficit get filled from WC? Magical money trees or the general fund?

Show me.

Your own linked material showed only a 4% allocation from the general fun to the roads. The majority of the road costs were registration. le fees and fuel taxes. There was one other number 5.2% that I assume is also a vehicle related revenue. Probably insurance taxation, or the likes. It's marked Imposts/misc.

Tell me now. What are you arguing about what you clearly have no clue of. Your second link proved just that. You linked a dream some liberals have and thought it was fact. You expect anyone here to think you have a clue about Oregon politics?

[MannyIsGod]

The 3 links all showed you that Oregon roads are being funded out of the general fund.

Here are more

http://www.allbusiness.com/governmen...8906606-1.html

[Wild Cobra]

The 3 links all showed you that Oregon roads are being funded out of the general fund.

Here are more

http://www.allbusiness.com/governmen...8906606-1.html

That link is meaningless with it's lack of specificity. Those "road projects" could be the new trolly system we have, bike paths, etc. They were even talking about a bridge for bicycles about that time over I-405.

You are laughable. Trying to pull these links out your ass that don't disprove anything I say.

[MannyIsGod]

Yes WC. The shortfall is made up from the magic money trees. I give you link after link after link that shows a shortfall and that money has to come from elsewhere but you refuse to acknowledge it.

Par for the course from you.

[ElNono]

I give you link after link after link that shows a shortfall and that money has to come from elsewhere but you refuse to acknowledge it.

Par for the course from you.

Why do you even bother? It's clear he's been FOS since the argument started.

[Wild Cobra]

One think you fail to understand is that ODOT (Oregon department of transportation) does more than just roads. Take a look at this:

OREGON DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION | BUDGET 2009 – 2011

If you note, the general fund only pays for 0.2% of the ODOT budget. If you look at county and city roads, it is all 100% Oregon revenue.



Should I also link the Oregon cons ution so you can see if I'm wrong about the mandated in law part? I think you can find that easy enough.

[ElNono]

This fancy graph is cooler...



3D with no glasses!

[ChumpDumper]

Are the lottery proceeds from car users too?

Are bike lanes and paths only constructed by the state?

If you knew that 90% of Oregon bike riders also own at least one car, would you more or less about the funding coming from car users?

[scott]

One think you fail to understand is that ODOT (Oregon department of transportation) does more than just roads. Take a look at this:

OREGON DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION | BUDGET 2009 – 2011

If you note, the general fund only pays for 0.2% of the ODOT budget. If you look at county and city roads, it is all 100% Oregon revenue.

Your state is running a billion dollar DOT deficit. It's also receiving a billion dollar federal subsidy for transportation. If gas taxes and registration fees can't even pay for the annual highway budget, how do you surmise it manages to pay for bike lanes?

Also, why do you oppose Oregon's fight against America's dependence of foreign oil?

[ducks]

so if you voted for health care YOU GOT SENT PACKING

[scott]

Or was that talking point retired in 2008?

[Wild Cobra]

Your state is running a billion dollar DOT deficit. It's also receiving a billion dollar federal subsidy for transportation. If gas taxes and registration fees can't even pay for the annual highway budget, how do you surmise it manages to pay for bike lanes?

Also, why do you oppose Oregon's fight against America's dependence of foreign oil?

I see you don't understand the chart.

[ChumpDumper]

so if you voted for health care YOU GOT SENT PACKING

That's a bit too broad a generalization, but props on the grammar this time around.

[scott]

I see you don't understand the chart.

I see you don't understand basic arithmetic.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

CBF is right on one point. If the economy doesn't improve I can already right you the storyline for the 2012 elections.

What's the storyline for the 2012 elections going to be?

[MannyIsGod]

If the economy doesn't improve? That the GOP didn't get it done.

[MannyIsGod]

I see you don't understand the chart.

Please argue about the budget with an economist.

Please.

[ElNono]

I see you don't understand basic arithmetic.

[Wild Cobra]

I see you don't understand basic arithmetic.

The bonded indebtedness is voter approved projects. The math adds up.

[ducks]

bush = 850 million in debt
obama = obama care
obama = useless bail outs
obama = 13.6 trillion dollars in debt
2012 yes we can obama removed from office = priceless

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

If the economy doesn't improve? That the GOP didn't get it done.

Even thought the president is a Democrat?

[ducks]

Even thought the president is a Democrat?

yes media is democrat

[MannyIsGod]

Even thought the president is a Democrat?

Democrats just got the blame even though the GOP played obstructionist the entire way through and even though none of the legislation that has been passed has really had time to make a difference.

Part of the burden of winning big is unrealistic expectations and now that is the burden the GOP will field.

Also, Obama has much better favoribility numbers than congress and now that the GOP is winning a lot of seats they'll have a lot of freshman congressmen and women who will have to defend. Thats a big part of what the Democrats just faced.

[coyotes_geek]

Obama has much better favoribility numbers than congress .....

Not exactly the best of metrics. , even dubya had better numbers than congress.