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    "legislation that is anti business"

    list the legislation

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    "Texas: $18 billion shortfall (estimated) or about 20 percent of state spending.

    California: $19.1 billion shortfall (official estimate) or about 20 percent of state spending."

    http://www.texasobserver.org/contrar...as-californias
    California deserves to be in the they are in. Businesses are constantly leaving because their state govt continues to pass legislation that is anti business. Their only answer is "Well, we could auction off some state land and raise taxes!"
    Rick Perry has quietly been running up a HUGE tab for Texans to pay off. Typical GOP Don't Tax, but Still Spend voodoo economics that got us into this mess on a national level. Giving him another four years is like giving your college kid a credit card and not checking your statement for four years.

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    Pssst. The coastline is where all the cities and people are. Votes aren't cast by square miles of land, they're cast by voters, and Cali is purple, leaning blue.
    Coastlines is where all educated, broad-minded, tolerant, informed people are.

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    Coastlines is where all educated, broad-minded, tolerant, informed people are.
    I think it's more the fact that the Repulicans always turn their backs on things like air quality and public transportation that are important to people in densely-populated urban areas.

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    The Repugs turn their faces to their typical business-friendly tax breaks, subsidies, corruption, non-enforcement, deregulation which is always anti-citizen and anti-environment.

    An exception the rule:

    (UPDATE 11:55 pm: The Prop 23 campaign conceded defeat, as with more than 3.5 million votes counted, the measure was being rejected by more than 59% of voters)

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gree...nitiative.html

    Many State AGs were in campaigns. I don't have the results, but I assume they went Repug mostly, so their consortium to go after the criminal lenders and banks will probably collapse. Expect millions of Ameircans to lose their homes to criminally fraudulent paperwork, their homes grabbed by the financial sector that has no right to grab their homes. 100s of years of property law, a foundation of society, completely raped.

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    have fun Cali

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    I hope that the good people from Texas get lots of overtime in the next 8 years…California is going to need several mother of all bail outs…California has lost its ability to govern…They cant pass any economic policies that saves more than they spend…California is so indebted to State workers who retire with full pensions after only 20 years of service…Most of whom eventually retire with two & three pensions…Do you think Governor Moonbeam is going to fix any of this?

    We have 10% sales tax, astronomical DMV fees, property taxes of 16k for an average priced home and still we are broke….We have our hand out asking for more stimulus & bail outs from people who at least try to live within their means…Laugh now, it is the good people from states like Texas who are going to foot the bill for it all…

    I love you patriotic people for being such good sports about it….Now please get off the internet & get to work…

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    LOL...

    Wouldn't that be funny of polling said it would win by (number out my ass) 65%, but they were too stoned to vote, so it lost?
    ... I think that is what happened...

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    California deserves Barbara Boxer.

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    California deserves Barbara Boxer.
    boxer sucks. carly major sucks.

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    boxer sucks. Carly major sucks.
    +10.

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    Man, it's crazy out this way ....... the state has 35 million people in it. Say two-thirds are kids. Still a load of people didn't vote. I think the reason Whitman didn't get elected was she sounded just like Ahnold, a re-pube; and it didn't set right with a person spending 150 million dollars of her own money for a job that pays a couple hundred grand. If she did that in the business world, she's be stoned and shot. Only in politics.

    Jerry Brown, I guess, was the lesser of two evils and I really wish they'd had NONE OF THE ABOVE on the ballot.

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    California deserves Barbara Boxer.
    Even though Boxer is brutal, the one thing she has done is keep a lot of off shore drill off the coast. See what happened with those money hungry s in the gulf.

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    Even though Boxer is brutal, the one thing she has done is keep a lot of off shore drill off the coast. See what happened with those money hungry s in the gulf.


    Well, yeah, duh, thank God for that. I wish Texas and Louisianna could get rid of that too. And the useless jobs that go with it.

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    , it's not fun out here .....

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    , it's not fun out here .....
    it's not?

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    well, it's amazing that a state with so much revenue be in so much debt. LA was in so much debt that it couldn't pay for the Lakers' last parade and these are guys who pump mucho fundage into the economy.

    First thing they say (Ah-nold), I will make cuts but not from education. Bull . Now they're trying to cut tutoring and after school programs that actually help keep kids off the streets and away from the bad elements out there. , they actually tried to get rid off the aid that helps my autistic son. What kind of is that? And they let go five great teachers at his school.

    Yet, education won't suffer. That's just one school. I know the same has happened in many more.

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    well, it's amazing that a state with so much revenue be in so much debt. LA was in so much debt that it couldn't pay for the Lakers' last parade and these are guys who pump mucho fundage into the economy.

    First thing they say (Ah-nold), I will make cuts but not from education. Bull . Now they're trying to cut tutoring and after school programs that actually help keep kids off the streets and away from the bad elements out there. , they actually tried to get rid off the aid that helps my autistic son. What kind of is that? And they let go five great teachers at his school.

    Yet, education won't suffer. That's just one school. I know the same has happened in many more.
    there are quite a few people on this forum that are happy to hear about those cuts.

    i'm pulling for you and your son.

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    there are quite a few people on this forum that are happy to hear about those cuts.

    i'm pulling for you and your son.

    much appreciated ...... If you're gonna cut, start at welfare. That's a system that has really gone bad. Education should be the last on the table.

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    I went back to my Independent roots in this mid-term election, so I do hope Moonbeam does a better job than the Govenator. I'm a bit disappointed in Prop 19 not passing, but it was a poorly written Proposition and could use a few more revisions and solidifying before it attempts to legalize the smok. While it wouldn't have done much in the way of subsiding the violence most associated with drugs (the Sinaloan conflicts)--it would've at least been interesting to see what the effect (if any...) the passage of a proposition would've done.

    I'm also happy that I don't have to have one of those moments where 40-50% of the commercials are election ads. I think the fact that they've become more negative and smear 'tactical' in nature really aids in voter apathy. That, and the continued disappointment politicians curry as noteriety.

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    I went back to my Independent roots in this mid-term election, so I do hope Moonbeam does a better job than the Govenator. I'm a bit disappointed in Prop 19 not passing, but it was a poorly written Proposition and could use a few more revisions and solidifying before it attempts to legalize the smok. While it wouldn't have done much in the way of subsiding the violence most associated with drugs (the Sinaloan conflicts)--it would've at least been interesting to see what the effect (if any...) the passage of a proposition would've done.

    I'm also happy that I don't have to have one of those moments where 40-50% of the commercials are election ads. I think the fact that they've become more negative and smear 'tactical' in nature really aids in voter apathy. That, and the continued disappointment politicians curry as noteriety.

    I'm the same with going Independent. I guess I had to go back to my roots with being fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I think Prop 19 went wrong with it being o.k.'d by the state but you could still get some serious fed time. It is amazing that people can't learn from the prohibition period in the 1930s. The same applies here.

    As far as election ads go, thank God they're off my television.

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    much appreciated ...... If you're gonna cut, start at welfare. That's a system that has really gone bad. Education should be the last on the table.
    The welfare system in LA is ed. I can't believe you can't get if you work and are struggling with the cost of living but can qualify when sitting on ass.

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    Hmmm, his name is El NO NO - probably a campaign tactic. Vote El NO NO on prop 19.


    Massive voter fraud!!!!

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    I'm the same with going Independent. I guess I had to go back to my roots with being fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I think Prop 19 went wrong with it being o.k.'d by the state but you could still get some serious fed time. It is amazing that people can't learn from the prohibition period in the 1930s. The same applies here.

    As far as election ads go, thank God they're off my television.
    Most definitely agree with being fiscally responsible for the most part, but I do believe that there should be certain aspects that spending cannot be avoided. It just has to be in a correct manner and not what is usually done in positions of power.

    The ads...yeah, they ruined the World Series for me...

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