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She should man up and congratulate the GOP.. and then fade away..Nice job Nancy you almost singlehandidly handed the Congress to the GOP,,
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/20...atulations-gop
she said she would quit if she was not the majority leader
DO IT
She should man up and congratulate the GOP.. and then fade away..Nice job Nancy you almost singlehandidly handed the Congress to the GOP,,
Bingo.She should man up and congratulate the GOP.. and then fade away..Nice job Nancy you almost singlehandidly handed the Congress to the GOP,,
It is only going to get better now that Moonbeam is back...Do the right thing...Open your pocketbooks Texas....CA needs cash now...
Thats complete and utter bull , btw. If you're a progressive and you hate Nancy Pelosi then you're out of your mind. Any hope you ever had of getting actual progressive legislation passed was through her running of the House?She should man up and congratulate the GOP.. and then fade away..Nice job Nancy you almost singlehandidly handed the Congress to the GOP,,
You know why the GOP hates Pelosi so much? She ran the House like a GOP speaker would. She got DONE. If Harry Reid was half as effective as her we'd have actual health care legislation and would have gotten a much better Stimulus Bill.
I could give two s if she congratulates the GOP. She did her job as speaker and she did it well.
Depends on what you consider the job of a Speaker to be. Personally, I'd consider the job of a Speaker to work towards as much consensus in the house as possible, and she failed miserably at that (there's been no real attempt at that since pre 9/11 though).
If you think the job of the Speaker is to ramrod their party's legislation, she was an excellent one.
"consensus in the house"
Dems gave lots of concessions, to the point of gutting, on health care and financial reform, and got absolutely nothing back.
Now the Repugs will continue to gut and defund the rule-writing on health care and financial reform, and The American People will continue to be fleeced.
Pelosi sucks, but she's hardly the reason the Democrats got their asses handed to them yesterday. The Democrats are the reason the Democrats got waxed. They ran on a bunch of hype about changing in Washington with progressive legislation aimed at taking the nation back from the banks and insurance companies, and instead we got a carbon-copy of the Republicans corporate welfare state.She should man up and congratulate the GOP.. and then fade away..Nice job Nancy you almost singlehandidly handed the Congress to the GOP,,
lulz, they gave concessions to other dems and paid off all of the rest. Had they gone the progressive route, they would have been curbstomped past the point of sweetheart deals.
Obama can say the reps are the party of no and did not work with him on being bipartisan, but most objective voters know he ignored much of what the repubs requested for health care reform.
Oh was this a serious post? What did he ignore exactly?
Oh was this a serious post? What did he ignore exactly?death panels!!!!!!
Is this a serious post? Interstate compe ion anyone? Surely you are not one of these misguided gentlemen that believes "we are looking into it" actually counts as bipartisan efforts...
Oh was this a serious post? What did he ignore exactly?
Last edited by BlairForceDejuan; 11-03-2010 at 12:16 PM.
Uh? The way she got the party aligned was to keep handing out perks in every legislation that pass through her hands. That's how the Healthcare legislation, among others, turned into a monstrosity overnight which ended up being disgusting to both the left and the right.
She represents everything that's opposite to the Hope and Change message that elected the prez.
@ interstate compe ion. Nevermind your laws Florida, here buy a Texas policy! Because thats all interstate insurance would be: A way for insurance companies to avoid laws they didn't like. Seems like a GREAT idea!
Last edited by MannyIsGod; 11-03-2010 at 12:27 PM.
The healthcare legislation that was passed through the House was anything but hated on the left. Healthcare legislation got ed due to the Senate - not the house.
As for your 2nd point, you can't change unless you pass legislation. She got her part done. The Senate did not. Nancy Pelosi makes a great target for the GOP but she did her job as speaker and she did it well.
LOL. Wow. you really understand those ideas on the other side of the aisle...
Please. She was a dealer, not a leader.
And what 'change' did she promote passing like the bank bailout?
She didn't know how to be the opposition, and once she was the administration, she didn't know how to keep the party in line without some massive wheeling and dealing (with her own party, obviously).
This was bar none one of the worst Congress I can recall, and her being one of the leaders of it is not surprising at all.
Oh then explain to me what allowing people in Virginia to purchase policies underwritten in Texas is doing?LOL. Wow. you really understand those ideas on the other side of the aisle...
Woah woah woah. Since when was Pelosi the driving force behind the bank bailout? Thats some revisionist right there. I seem to remember one Henry Paulson scaring the out of EVERYONE.
Find me the progressives who were upset with the way she handled health care. She got the job done regarding legislation in her house of congress. That involves wheeling and dealing. None of this is somehow groundbreaking or unheard of in congress.
Yeah, Obama campaigned on hope and changed. If you thought that meant the way laws were passed was going to change then you were going to be disappointed. In any event, campaign slogans aren't usually the best of marks to set in judging lawmakers - especially when they're not their own slogans.
"Laws, like sausages, cease to inspire respect in proportion as we know how they are made."
-John Godfrey Saxe
I can't believe Harry Reid won. He is just as bad as Pelosi.
Virtually every piece of legislation passed from this congress was substantially different in its House version. When the senate completely grabs you by the balls and changes every single thing you do and makes it worse, I'm not going to lay the blame at your feet.
Socialism!
Admittedly, I have no idea what you are talking about here. If this is something currently going on (can't find anything about it), then it's gotta be in the Virginia state laws, which means they aren't bypassing laws they don't like (or if you'd rather it's a state problem and not related to the arguments posed at the federal level).
In terms of what Republicans in the federal government were suggesting, this isn't anywhere near what anyone was suggesting. All the interstate things involved one of 2 things. The most prominent was moving regulation of insurance to the national level (something insurance companies have asked for repeatedly over the last decade at least). The other was allowing small groups to band together across state lines to buy group policies (which would still be subject to various state requirements, ie you'd have to go by the most strict amount the states or have split policies in the supergroup, or would still involve nationalizing the regulations).
The real good news is that I can stomach a 'state of the union' address now because I don't have to see that smiling and clapping in the background everytime Obama takes a shot at the republicans.
Yeah - you want to know why they want to nationalize the regulations? Take one big mfering hint from my posts.
They don't like the regulations in place in certain states so instead they want to get around them. How about we let the people Montana decide what they want from their policies and we let the people in Texas do the same instead of letting places with high populations run roughshod over smaller states.
I'm sorry - isn't the GOP supposed to be in favor of states rights? Except when big insurance can benefit, right?
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