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    Well, Yoni brought president Obama's India trip up as a cost of $2 billion. I was skeptical of this till I read he is bringing an entourage of 3,000 people with him, and renting the entire Taj Mahal Palace, and 570 rooms. There are 40 jets involved also. Total cost is $200,000,000 a day. If he stays for the intended 10 days, that is $2 billion.

    God... This is getting ridiculous.
    And you're still ridiculous. You spew such vitriolic bull about government going out of control, about how Obama is a clown, then you attach "IF, this is true." This is why most people except for Darrins and Yoni poop on your threads. You lack the same open-mindedness that you appear to want others to have when they read threads that are critical of the GOP. There's absolutely no way this is true, and even if it is...it's less than 1/100th of the amount that the GOP plan to put on the deficit.

    Why don't you give us a link to what the GOP plans to cut in order to stop the debt from rising? Why don't you link us to a jobs plan you endorse that doesn't start out with "By saving the richest 2% from tax increases, small business owners will be able to create jobs for everyone!"?

    If it's not a funny haha thread, then at least give us some insight instead of ing about something that might not even be true. I'll STFU if it's anything over 500m (which I still think is a lot anyway, but whatever, the people we're dealing with in India are into all types of bizarre ).

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    This seems less than accurate.

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    The guy was basically regurgitating other websites.

    He also varied between 200M figure for the whole trip spent on security, and 200M per day.

    Sloppy journalism, poorly sourced.

    About on par with most of the stuff you post.

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    There are 40 jets involved also.


    You *will* believe anything, won't you?

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    Your article is for the income generated in that one city for two days. Not the total bill. Read this:

    US to spend $200 mn a day on Obama's Mumbai visit
    Once again this looks like bad journalism/math.

    "$200 million per day"
    "The huge amount of around $200 million would be spent on security,"
    Dude is there for 10 days. Source quoted appears to be what the *Indian goverment* is spending TOTAL, but the journalist goes off and says that figure is "per day".

    a top official of the Maharashtra Government privy to the arrangements for the high-profile visit said
    The quote didn't say by whom the amount was to be spent.

    I have little doubt that putting our chief executive in an area where terrorism is a real possibility is going to entail a lot of security, and that would be expensive.

    But the $2bn figure is far beyond the pale. The fact that WC and Yoni are so willing to accept it on face value says more about their lack of critical thinking when it comes to their ideological views than anything else.

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    I don't think you can manage to spend $200m per day in India. Doing it consistently for 10 days straight sounds like an even bigger impossibility.

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    Yeah. So unnecessary an expense. Maybe our next president will have his supporters pack up a bunch of brown bags before he takes on a foreign policy trip.

    They ing should.

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    I'm a little dubious of this figure, even with a few thousand people going, forty planes, entire hotels, etc. If 2 billion for 10 days is right, then it is more than the monthly rate of the war in Afghanistan.

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    You *will* believe anything, won't you?
    He believed 10/15 = 0.833, so anything's possible.

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    I'm a little dubious of this figure
    Only a little?

    He believed 10/15 = 0.833, so anything's possible.
    No . Mic e Bachmann also thinks 85,000 = 1,000,000.

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    Seriously? We're going to put a price tag on matters of state? As if there were some way to comparatively shop for a Presidential trip to India?

    This is beyond irrational. It's almost pathalogically dishonest.

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    Bogus...like most wing-nut claims...


    Here is another article from an Indian news source with far lower numbers

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/6850069.cms

    It says $40 million for the whole trip and 500 people.

    I can't speak to the accuracy of either source. Both seem to be speculating.

    But hey why not use it. The wing-nuts don't seem to care about accuracy...
    Oh, okay. With 10% unemployment, we should all be cool with the president spending $40 million for ten day trips

    I can save our country a lot of money. Here you go Mr. President:

    http://www.gotomeeting.com

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    I don't think you can manage to spend $200m per day in India. Doing it consistently for 10 days straight sounds like an even bigger impossibility.
    Well, if you're transporting 3,000 people halfway around the world, paying for overtime, food, travel, etc. it can add up.

    I doubt it's $200 million, but then again, there's this little gem:

    http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/repor...bhavan_1461946

    Since it is difficult to monitor such a congested area, they came up with a quick solution which left the Indians accompanying them amazed: A bomb-proof over-ground tunnel — to be installed by US military engineers in just an hour
    1 KM long bombproof portable tunnel?

    And

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34...visit-64459?cp

    Anyone know what the operating cost of a carrier group is for 10 days? That's got to add up too.

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    Well, if you're transporting 3,000 people halfway around the world, paying for overtime, food, travel, etc. it can add up.

    I doubt it's $200 million, but then again, there's this little gem:

    http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/repor...bhavan_1461946



    1 KM long bombproof portable tunnel?
    This I gotta see!

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    Oh, okay. With 10% unemployment, we should all be cool with the president spending $40 million for ten day trips

    I can save our country a lot of money. Here you go Mr. President:

    http://www.gotomeeting.com
    Typing this post would be dumb enough. Typing it after all the posts in this thread that preceded it:

    is beyond irrational.
    Seriously, you are re ed to an insane degree if you think we could or should conduct state meetings with India via ing teleconference. God help this country if clueless, dumb as ing brick assholes like yourself are truly the norm.

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    And

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34...visit-64459?cp

    Anyone know what the operating cost of a carrier group is for 10 days? That's got to add up too.
    The carrier group would be completely inactive for those 10 days otherwise?

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    The carrier group would be completely inactive for those 10 days otherwise?
    They were scheduled to have a fundraiser bake sale during that time!

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    They were scheduled to have a fundraiser bake sale during that time!
    So they would have been making money.

    Dammit!

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    The carrier group would be completely inactive for those 10 days otherwise?
    From what I read, they were re-tasked from elsewhere. So I guess the "true" cost is whatever was spent in fuel to get there and back from wherever they came from.

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    Typing this post would be dumb enough. Typing it after all the posts in this thread that preceded it:



    Seriously, you are re ed to an insane degree if you think we could or should conduct state meetings with India via ing teleconference. God help this country if clueless, dumb as ing brick assholes like yourself are truly the norm.
    Lick my taint Balli. You are such a liberal shill. That was tongue in cheek about Webex, but damn there's gotta be cheaper ways to conduct foreign policy than taking you and 3000 of your closest friends halfway around the world and booking out the Taj Mahal.

    Go smoke some weed and lighten up Francis.

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    From what I read, they were re-tasked from elsewhere. So I guess the "true" cost is whatever was spent in fuel to get there and back from wherever they came from.
    That might be true if they were just anchored somewhere not moving at all. I'm under the impression that they move constantly.

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    but damn there's gotta be cheaper ways to conduct foreign policy than taking you and 3000 of your closest friends halfway around the world and booking out the Taj Mahal.
    Closest friends? GMAFB. Yeah, Obama just called up his whole Blackberry contact list and took them all, just because...

    Or maybe, like I said yesterday, Obama sees the writing on the wall in Pakistan and and since India is a humongous and populous country with various religious and political sects, it might take more than a handful of people to go over there and actually form the types of alliances and strategies we will need to defend ourselves and the world from a rogue, nuclear Pakistan.

    Again, like I said, the average re ed teabag POS is too stupid to see the necessity of complexity in anything; continue to draw your asinine conclusions.

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    And in fact, if the op's website is the source which cites '3,000 people and 40 jets' I am beyond skeptical of its veracity.

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    ^^^Only appropriate response to this thread.

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    ^^^Only appropriate response to this thread.

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