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"The people who are attracted to this game don't care about touchdowns" - Troy Polamalu
"The people who are attracted to this game don't care about touchdowns" - Troy Polamalu
the pussification of the NFL...I agree with Harrison
EDIT: Polamulu
so it's pussifying to make sure that the current players don't end up with oatmeal for brains when they're retired? take a look at that HBO clip of how John Mackey's doing, then tell me that protecting players from got headhunters like James Harrison is a bad thing.
I saw the special, it was pretty powerful stuff. That being said, NFL players back in his day would play with concussions all the time b/c they didn't have the medical/training staff that's available now. I'm not condoning headhunting, but this witch hunt is beyond stupid, and they're doing it for all the wrong reasons. All these new rules cater to the offense. If James Harrison is a got headhunter than your boy Rodney is the posterboy for headhunting gotry
if you weren't a post-Gasol Lakerfan then you'd know that I've been hating on "my boy" Rodney for years for being a headhunting head on steroids.
The Patriots have made plenty of mistakes. They basically ruined Ted Johnson's life. They've also proven they've learned from their mistakes. After Brandon Merriweather's cheap shot, he got taken out of the game and pretty much didn't see the field any more. He then had to make a big time apology.
That's in stark contrast to Pittsburgh, where James Harrison's actions are not condemned or even distanced from. In fact, now Polamalu and Tomlin have come out in support of Harrison's headhunting like it's a good thing. The idea that cheap shots are what people want to see, and not touchdowns, is absolutely ing ridiculous.
Anything the NFL does to protect their assets from being completely debilitated by the time they're 35 years old is a commendable act, and it's completely ing ignorant to say it's "pussifying" the league.
+1 for originalityif you weren't a post-Gasol Lakerfan then you'd know that I've been hating on "my boy" Rodney for years for being a headhunting head on steroids.
Agreed.The Patriots have made plenty of mistakes. They basically ruined Ted Johnson's life. They've also proven they've learned from their mistakes. After Brandon Merriweather's cheap shot, he got taken out of the game and pretty much didn't see the field any more. He then had to make a big time apology.
You're looking at this from a skewed perspective, tbh. How often do we actually see "kill-shots" during a typical NFL season? It took a fluke 4 hits-in-one-week to make all this come to light in the first place. That's because it's FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. Half the time when these happen they aren't even malicious--some hits are hard to avoid at full-speed. There's already fines and suspensions set in place for cheap shots, so why ins ute more when the incidence of these hits is so rare? It's football, people get injured...that doesn't mean we need to make a new rule everytime it happens (i.e. Tom Brady--Bernard Pollard, 2008). Polamalu is right to a certain extent. Sure, people want to see touchdowns, but if TD's are the main draw then why not watch Arena Football? Hard hits are a part of the game...the rules they had prior to this year (regarding head shots) were fine...obviously repeat offenders should be punished more.That's in stark contrast to Pittsburgh, where James Harrison's actions are not condemned or even distanced from. In fact, now Polamalu and Tomlin have come out in support of Harrison's headhunting like it's a good thing. The idea that cheap shots are what people want to see, and not touchdowns, is absolutely ing ridiculous.
I agree with the first part, but this is a violent game by nature and they're getting paid millions of dollars to do it. I'm all for protecting the players, but with each new rule the defense is getting phased out of the game. Next some linebacker is going to hit somebody in the chest, causing a traumatic aortic rupture, then you won't be allowed to hit there either. Just put flags on everybody and save us the time.Anything the NFL does to protect their assets from being completely debilitated by the time they're 35 years old is a commendable act, and it's completely ing ignorant to say it's "pussifying" the league.
Why so much hate for Pittsburgh, if you don't mind me asking? The Rooney's are arguably the classiest owners in sports, and I'm sure they'd speak up (or tell Tomlin to shut up) if they thought this was an NFL epidemic
Last edited by DeadlyDynasty; 11-05-2010 at 05:40 AM.
The perception is that they're a.) a dirty football team and b.) get favorable officiating other teams don't get.
Harrison put two Browns players out of the game with blatant helmet-to-helmet shots and didn't get penalized for either of them. Especially the hit on Mohamed Massaquoi. That was the definition of going to the head of a defenseless receiver.
T.J. Ward hit Jordan Shipley in the exact same way a couple of weeks earlier and got flagged, and it damn near cost Cleveland a game they ended up winning.
Harrison has always been a guy on the margins, BTW, going back to his days thuggin' it up at Coventry High School outside Akron. Pittsburgh always has at least one guy like him- before Harrison they had Joey Porter.
how does keeping someone from headhunting cater to an offense? two reasons why your claim is ing re ed
1. you can still deliver a devastating blow without hitting the opponents head
2. you can still make the tackle (which is really the goal for the defense) without hitting the opponents head
you can still stop someone for a minimal gain by simply wrapping up, or giving them a hard pop with your shoulder. look at Brian Dawkins hit in the NFC championship game against Alge Crumpler. clean hit, led with shoulder into chest, knocked the living out of crumpler still, and minimized the gain with the tackle.
I think this rule will help defensive players to miss less tackles.
steelers are gay
TBH out of Harrison's 2 hits in the Browns game, the hit on Cribbs looked incidental. Cribbs was moving perpendicular to Harrison's line of motion, and there was a player between Cribbs and Harrison who would have obstructed Harrison's line of sight.
However the hit on Massaquoi was a clear case of headhunting and he deserved the fine for that alone.
The hit on Brees last Sunday was pedestrian, by comparison - simply a late hit on the QB with no helmet-to-helmet contact. That was definitely worth a penalty on the field, but a fine off the field for that is kinda stupid IMO. That kind of play happens very frequently, and the rules protecting the QB immediately penalize the D on the field. Why fine the guy when he didn't attempt a malicious hit?
Although Polamalu and Harrison are wrong in whining about this publicly (especially calling out Goodell - that could end up hurting the team), they have a point as to what happened this week. That play by Harrison on Brees did not deserve a fine.
lol harrison
lol polamalu
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JT, I agree there shouldn't be a double standard when assessing fines and suspensions. The Steelers historically get preferential treatment from the officials (as evidenced by the past 2 superbowls), but as Warlord stated above, only the Massaquoi hit looked unequivocally dirty, imo. Almost every team has a "bad guy" or thug, some get more attention than others.
Gee, let's see here...If you have to think about avoiding the head, knees, avoiding using your helmet, etc for fear of fines and suspension, then you are less likely to make a defensive play. Yeah, I'm sure it's just as "simple" as wrapping up on every play, right? GMAFB, if it was that simple then why does the tackling suck so hard in the NFL right now? Here's another reason as to why your claim is ing re ed: Maybe, just maybe if the quarterback didn't set the WR up for the kill this wouldn't be an issue. You rarely, if ever, see Brady, Manning and other elite QB's get their receivers killed. Bad and/or young QBs often put their receivers in bad positions. This is football, fellas...if a WR or RB is going to parade through the middle of your defense then light his ass up.
Agreed. Harrison contemplating retirement and Polamalu complaining are pretty moves, imo. That being said, Polamalu is right about Goodell. Why should Goodell have total autonomy and authority when levying out fines and suspensions for vicious hits? As other people have stated, there should be a panel of him, coaches, former and current players to review each incident on a case-by-case basis. Repeat offenders (like Harrison) should be dealt with more severely.
Big hits are a part of the game, and what most of you are complaining about happens so rarely anyways. If you prefer a more vaginal brand of football then more power to ya.
Actually I agree to a certain extent. I think the Cribbs hit was dirty- he's easily Cleveland's most dangerous offensive weapon, has killed the Steelers in the past and I can easily believe Harrison was deliberately trying to put him out of the game- but I understand the officials missing it, what with the fact that it was a running play and there were a cluster of bodies around the ball.
The Massaqoui hit not being flagged was ridiculous. Worst part was that there was a flag on that play- and it was on the Browns for delay of game b/c Alex Mack kicked the ball out of bounds.
I don't begrudge the Steelers for being physical. What annoys me is the double standard. "Dirty" for Team A is "hard-nosed" for the Steelers.
Last edited by JoeTait75; 11-05-2010 at 01:31 PM.
tackling is maybe harder because players are faster, quicker, and stronger than they ever have been.
again, I have no issue with a hard hit, and had stated that, you moron. but the head should be off limits. thats pretty simple. ing dumbass illiterate laker fan
what is so hard about hitting someone with your shoulder?
that pussy harrison had a free hit on brees who wasnt looking and he STILL has to lead with his helmet?
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