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    From the article linked in my previous post.

    Now your insurance is INCOME on your W2's......

    One of the surprises we'll find come next year, is what follows - - a little "surprise" that 99% of us had no idea was included in the "new and improved" healthcare legislation . . . voters who believed "no tax increase" will be astonished!

    Starting in 2011, (next year folks), your W-2 tax form sent by your employer will be increased to show the value of whatever health insurance you are given by the company. It does not matter if that's a private concern or governmental body of some sort. If you're retired? So what; your gross will go up by the amount of insurance you get.

    You will be required to pay taxes on a large sum of money that you have never seen. Take your tax form you just finished and see what $15,000 or $20,000 additional gross does to your tax debt. That's what you'll pay next year. For many, it also puts you into a new higher bracket so it's even worse.

    This is how the government is going to buy insurance for the 15% that don't have insurance and it's only part of the tax increases.
    Show of hands. How many were aware this was a provision of Obamacare?

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    Justice for the crooked AARP that supported Obamacare in spite of objections from it's members...

    AARP Blames ObamaCare for Hike in Employee Health Insurance Costs

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    Health care is now being argued that it's a tax.

    He wants cap and tax. That would have been on everyone.

    He did raise taxes on smokes. If you smoke and make under 250, you gots lied to!

    He wants big government and big government means big taxes.

    You fools should be thanking the smart folks that voted to get rid of dems this election or Barry would have nailed all of us to the cross.

    I can't believe this prick is going to spend 2 ing billion dollars for a goddamn trip. You s keep defending him.

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    Justice for the crooked AARP that supported Obamacare in spite of objections from it's members...

    AARP Blames ObamaCare for Hike in Employee Health Insurance Costs
    yoni can't read.

    Health care is now being argued that it's a tax.

    He wants cap and tax. That would have been on everyone.

    He did raise taxes on smokes. If you smoke and make under 250, you gots lied to!

    He wants big government and big government means big taxes.

    You fools should be thanking the smart folks that voted to get rid of dems this election or Barry would have nailed all of us to the cross.

    I can't believe this prick is going to spend 2 ing billion dollars for a goddamn trip. You s keep defending him.
    Prove it's going to cost 2 billion.

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    Sounds like the president is owning up to his shortcomings. Yoni is stretching this one a little too far in order to turn it into an insult. Sorry, its not working

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    Have your taxes gone up or down the past two years, yoni?
    they will go up if the guy in the white house does not extend the tax cuts

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    yoni can't read.

    Prove it's going to cost 2 billion.
    prove what it is going to cost

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    You expected them to go down?
    they should go down because he people are unemployed


    because he refuses to tax things made in china so people would make products in the usa instead of china

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    people have less money because health care is going up because of the the person in the white house right now in 2011 even though the whole benifiets will not be in effect until 2013

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    they will go up if the guy in the white house does not extend the tax cuts
    That's not the job of the guy in the White House.

    prove what it is going to cost
    I'm not making any claim to what it cost.

    I will claim the most expensive presidential trip was about $50 million. If you can show me how this trip can cost 40 times that, go ahead ducks.

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    people have less money because health care is going up because of the the person in the white house right now in 2011 even though the whole benifiets will not be in effect until 2013
    Health care costs were projected to go down if Obamacare didn't pass?

    I'll need a link to that.

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    heath care goes up but not 13% without obamastupidty care


    apr a large supporter of health care now has admitted SOURCE TV

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    That's not the job of the guy in the White House.


    I'm not making any claim to what it cost.

    I will claim the most expensive presidential trip was about $50 million. If you can show me how this trip can cost 40 times that, go ahead ducks.
    I need a link to that claim






























    see I can do what you do ask for a link on anything you post

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    I need a link to that claim

    see I can do what you do ask for a link on anything you post
    Back in 1999, the General Accounting Office did a study of a 10-day trip to Africa by President Bill Clinton. The report found that the total cost for the trip was $42 million.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...41-503544.html

    There you go.

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    I adjusted for inflation.

    You're welcome.

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    Obama: U.S. can't afford two years of gridlock

    I beg to differ. Two years of gridlock in Washington is better than two more years of out-of-control spending, onerous and oppressive legislation, and silly administration antics.

    On the 2nd, that's what voters decided.

    Three days after voters punished Obama's party for the weak economy, he called for "putting politics aside" as he struck a conciliatory tone with victorious Republicans, saying he was open to hearing their ideas for tackling stubbornly high unemployment.
    No more of that "we won" , eh Barry?

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