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    Barack Obama: Yes We Can


    REPLAY: Marco Rubio acceptance speech


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    There are lots of interesting points. One is from ‘black America’ — the “son of slaves”, although this is not strictly true about Obama, whose father came from Africa on an airplane and returned the same way. The other is Hispanic, the “son of exiles”, in this case literally true. So whether anyone likes it or not, the narrative of America being divided between “black and white” is going to be less then true. Obama, Rubio, Jindal. I wonder what somersaults Bernardine Dohrn’s mind must make to keep her narrative intact.

    Much more interesting is the difference in world views. Obama’s “Yes We Can” speech is in many ways an program to change America. In that world America is a flawed thing growing into something better; what is good about it is it’s capacity to realize its mistakes. Yes, we can.

    In Rubio’s view there is gold in the bedrock. Something that ought to be preserved and built on. He too has his vision of a City on a Hill, but it is an American city, the ‘greatest civilization in the history of the world’.

    So despite the fascinating parallels between Obama and Rubio their differences are not ethnic but conceptual. And so the game begins.
    I think Rubio is the Democrats' worst nightmare.

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    Watch 25 more minutes of YouTube! I neglect my family to do this!

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    I think Rubio is the Democrats' worst nightmare.
    How so?

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    Why did Clinton try to get Meeks to drop out of the race?

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    Why did Clinton try to get Meeks to drop out of the race?
    Because he was siphoning votes from a Democratic contender

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    Because he was siphoning votes from a Democratic contender
    Crist was a Republican turned Independent after he lost the primary to Rubio. Meek was the only Democrat in the race.

    Care to try again?

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    Care to try again?
    No. Just spit it out and drop the 20 questions routine already.

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    No. Just spit it out and drop the 20 questions routine already.
    Nah, I like twenty questions. Hey, here's a hint: Miguel Estrada.

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    Nevermind, you're being childish

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    Childishness on display
    Cluelessness on display.

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    Nevermind, you're being childesh
    Ooops, you changed your post. Okay, nevermind.

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    This is why:

    America is the single greatest nation on earth, a place without equal in the history of all mankind. A place built on free enterprise, where the employee can become the employer. Where small businesses are started every day in a spare bedroom and where someone like me, the son of a bartender and a maid, can become a United States Senator.

    I know about the unique exceptionalism of our country. Not because I read about it in a book, I've seen it through my own eyes. You see, I was raised in a community of exiles, by people who lost their country, people who once had dreams like we do today, but had to come to a foreign shore to find them.

    For some their dreams were answered here in America, but many others found a new dream. To leave their children with the kinds of opportunities they themselves never had. And that is what we must do as a nation. To fulfill our sacred obligation to leave the next generation of Americans a better America than the one we inherited. And that is what this election was about.
    Rubio's message resonates with a demographic and a generation that, in large part, voted Democrat this election. In some places, Democrats garnered 90% of the Hispanic/Latino vote. Not in Florida and, when Rubio takes the national stage -- and he will -- that demographic may follow.

    That's why.

    That's also why Democrats vilified and filibustered Miguel Estrada.

    Remember the leaked Durbin memo from the time Miguel Estrada was nominated to the federal bench?

    Internal memos leaked at the time from Democratic Senator Durbin’s office made it clear that Democrats felt Estrada had to be defeated because, as one put it, “he is Latino.” Durbin assured reporters that this was meant not in a racist sense, but because Estrada could prove “politically dangerous."

    Durbin and his colleagues feared that if they didn’t kill him in his judicial crib, Miguel Estrada might one day be nominated to the Supreme Court by a Republican President and they would find themselves forced to oppose a nominee with broad appeal to voters they consider their own.
    Rubio: Democrat Nightmare! At a time when they can ill afford to lose anymore of their voters.

    Yeee Haw!

    And, now, for your viewing pleasure:


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    The Obama acceptance speech was horrible. I didn't watch the vid of Rubio, but the transcription is pure national greatness conservative boilerplate.

    (Not my cup of tea, but I get that for you it's an all-day sucker. And that's cool with me, just don't try to make it compulsory.)

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    I see, its about his last name. What yoni fails to realize is that a person of cuban descent winning as a republican in florida is about as mundane as an african american winning a mayoral election as a democat in the northeast. Sorry yoni this doesn't signal a national trend in any way when it comes to the coveted hispanic vote
    Last edited by Oh, Gee!!; 11-06-2010 at 07:47 AM.

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    I see, its about his skin color.
    More about his surname, IMO. Rubio looks pretty castellano to me.
    What yoni fails to realize is that a person of cuban descent winning as a republican in florida is about as mundane as ...
    I think he realizes it. But he would never let a little detail like that interfere with a good story. The Dems are resentful that Rubio has encroached upon their ethnic fiefdom.

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    I changed my post but I'm posting from a smartphone and it takes a long time to edit.

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    Latinos trended blue in this election even more heavily than the last, true.

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    The relevant difference here is Cuban Latino vs. Mexican/South American Latino.

    Cuban Latinos in Florida have been against democrats since the Bay of Pigs Fiasco.

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    Yoni thinks they're all mexicans

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    This is all you got, Yoni?

    You're finished. We may as well nail your ass to the Tree of Woe.

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    Having hispanic blood myself, I can tell you populism is a direct trait of hispanics.
    I can easily see 7 out of 10 hispanic voters (if not more) being democrats/progressive/lib /lefty/socialist/whatever you want to call it.

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    yoni is obsessed with race.

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    Hey, it wasn't me trying to get Meek to drop out so Crist would stand a chance. It was the Democrats.

    They obviously fear something in Rubio.

    I think Durbin tipped their hand during the Miguel Estrada confirmation. They are scared to death of a successful minority rising to power in the Republican Party.

    Again, I'm not the one that attempted to help an establishment Republican win in Florida.

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    This is all you got, Yoni?

    You're finished. We may as well nail your ass to the Tree of Woe.
    Yeah, woe is me...because, my standing and success in Spurstalk.com is so ing important.


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    They are scared to death of a successful minority rising to power in the Republican Party.
    You wish it. That's not the same thing.

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