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    I'd hate to lose Blair, but the Spurs really need some defenders on this team, and Varejao could be really helpful on that front. Plus, watching a Varejao/Dirk matchup in the playoffs would be priceless.

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    none says Dice is without value for this team.
    he played as good as we could ever have hoped.
    question is: is the 36 years old Dice as valuable for this team like an all NBA defense player in his prime could be?
    my answer is NO. not even close.
    Varejao might not have the strength to guard Howard, but he is exactly the right man to guard Gasol, Odom, Dirk, Aldridge, West, Scola. in other words: all those guys you don't really want to be guarded by old Dice. (especially in a PO series after a long season).

    and yes, Tiago will help on defense and he is the more talented player overall. but he won't be able to play the level of defense Varejao offers (maybe in 2 years) AND he will be in foul troubles a lot more than most realize right now.
    So the truth of the matter is.. despite all the hype, Splitter won't help much for another two years. in' great.

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    So the truth of the matter is.. despite all the hype, Splitter won't help much for another two years. in' great.
    actually that's just an opinion.


    Splitter's defense will help this team immensely this season, but I still don't think that's enough to take down LA's frontline. The Lakers are the reigning 2x champs and every team in the western conference looking for a shot at the finals must consider them with every personnel decision.

    I don't want to move Dice b/c he is one of our solid big defenders, the point is to add another not keep the same number. Varejao's defensive level is likely (only likely b/c I have somehow managed to not see a cavs game this year) above Antonio's so it might be a good move even if Dyess was the trading chip. But the best route for the Spurs would be to find a way for Varejao to take Bonner's or Blair's spot.

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    The best trade rumor I have seen going around is for corey brewer. He would fit in well I think and would not break the bank for the spurs.

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    none says Dice is without value for this team.
    he played as good as we could ever have hoped.
    question is: is the 36 years old Dice as valuable for this team like an all NBA defense player in his prime could be?
    my answer is NO. not even close.
    Varejao might not have the strength to guard Howard, but he is exactly the right man to guard Gasol, Odom, Dirk, Aldridge, West, Scola. in other words: all those guys you don't really want to be guarded by old Dice. (especially in a PO series after a long season).
    Fair point.

    But I think McDyess was quite good against Nowitzki and was quite proficient in the games that mattered (late last season and playoffs). The numbers didn't say it - Dirk made some ridiculously tough shots and was magical, but that was despite McDyess playing in your face and strong defense throughout. I think Dice has one good year in the tank and is reliable.

    Agree that Varejao is a great hustle player and good against PFs, but his contract is *prohibitively* expensive ($33mil locked in dollars till 2014 + trade kicker) and I would like to have a shot blocker to go along with Duncan, which he is not.

    and yes, Tiago will help on defense and he is the more talented player overall. but he won't be able to play the level of defense Varejao offers (maybe in 2 years) AND he will be in foul troubles a lot more than most realize right now.
    Yes. I hope that his learning curve is more steeper and quicker.

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    The best trade rumor I have seen going around is for corey brewer. He would fit in well I think and would not break the bank for the spurs.
    For who, Bonner?

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    Setting aside contract size for a second, I always had the impression Varejao had a bad case of ADHD. Does he actually have the mental capacity to excel in the Spurs system and playing for a coach like Pop?

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    Setting aside contract size for a second, I always had the impression Varejao had a bad case of ADHD. Does he actually have the mental capacity to excel in the Spurs system and playing for a coach like Pop?
    Half of Varajao's effectiveness was being Lebron's teammate for years, so the pandering refs would give him the benefit of the doubt on 90% of his flops.

    If he was a spur he would be assessed a foul 3 out of 4 times.

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    Setting aside contract size for a second, I always had the impression Varejao had a bad case of ADHD. Does he actually have the mental capacity to excel in the Spurs system and playing for a coach like Pop?
    ? he played for the very coach, who learned coaching from Pop and who installed a defense system similar to Spurs. and in this system varejao became an all NBA defender. why shouldn't he be able to learn Pop's system?

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    we don't really have any room in the rotation for varejao. having to find time for duncan, blair, mcdyess, splitter, and bonner, iffy rumor

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    Setting aside contract size for a second, I always had the impression Varejao had a bad case of ADHD. Does he actually have the mental capacity to excel in the Spurs system and playing for a coach like Pop?
    Forget who his coach was for every year of his career up until now? Brown might not be fiery like Pop, but I doubt their defensive schemes were too far off.

    The Spurs would not trade for him so he can be apart of the offense, it is a defensive upgrade, and a large one.

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    we don't really have any room in the rotation for varejao. having to find time for duncan, blair, mcdyess, splitter, and bonner, iffy rumor

    One of them would be traded (bonner, blair, mcd).

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    One of them would be traded (bonner, blair, mcd).
    true, but not all 5 of our posts have been healthy all at once

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    with Splitter on the team this rumor make no sense!

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    with Splitter on the team this rumor make no sense!
    I know. But according to spurstalk sources, Splitter won't be ready to contribute for another two years.

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    I don't understand why the rockets aren't mentioned as an interested party, they've got Yao's expiring deal to utilize and many needs to fill presently.

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    Something along the lines of Jamison + Varajao for Yao, would save the cavs a -ton of money.

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    I know. But according to spurstalk sources, Splitter won't be ready to contribute for another two years.
    says who?

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    I would not want to see Blair moved, not with his contract.

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    I really hope not, I don't want that idiot anywhere near the Spurs' team.
    You're ignorant and foolish. Period.

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    I believe the spurs don't event have throw in dice and Blair for him. They"ll probably throw the second rounder and some cash or maybe some one from over seas like nando.

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    blair is still rebounding alright for us and helps with keeping the ball alive the thing is we got used to blair playing stellar so we forget he was a second rounder with little to look forward to. i think if we give blair time he'll come around and be out there.

    once he shakes this rust off imagine if we see him start getting close to 20/20 games again?? this team will be damn hard to beat. but andy is a good pickup as well. we should not trade dice hes more important to this team than i think 99% of spurs fans realize hes out there when the games on the line and he always delivers. now once a good amount of time has passed and even if blair has played alright, i see us trading blair which is really sad but andys stats are 9.8pts 10.8reb 2.2 ass and +18.80%eff thats a consistent double double player.

    for all of you doubting tiago remeber tiago outplayed andy on every level nationally so them being equal stature splitter>andy (broader shoulders/strength) i know tiagos stats will be better than andys

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    i see the spurs trading blair once an ample amount of time has passed without seeing 20/20 blair potential! i say we pull the trigger.

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    He is a good defender, rebounder and hustle guy and has great hands. And he is by no means any form an idiot on a basketball court.
    x1000

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    I am a fan of Varejao. I am not a fan of his contract, or the pieces such a move would demand.

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